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It stops the spread of the virus. If you did nothing 5% would die and worse those that have recovered have problems breathing (can't walk up stairs). Life wou
by wolco 7y ago
It stops the spread of the virus. If you did nothing 5% would die and worse those that have recovered have problems breathing (can't walk up stairs).
Life would come to a halt regardless.
- beardedman 7y agoNo offense, I know people who have recovered and none of them have any hint of anything afterwards.
- NikolaNovak 7y agoAnecdotes, Yay! :-) No offense.
- beardedman 7y agoNice. No offense.
- point78 7y agoEveryone...this guy knows some people who have recovered. We've been lied to, hospitals are NOT full. You may be on hacker news, but you definitely aren't smart.
- adrianN 7y agoPlease don't include personal attacks in your comments.
- mtmail 7y ago"Some recovered patients may have reduced lung function" https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/health-environment/article/3074988/coronavirus-some-recovered-patients-may-have https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/health-environment/artic... (HN discussion https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22568100 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22568100)
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- wolco 7y agoNo offense taken. I kind of worry about this mindset generally. It isn't real unless I know someone who is in hospital. It gets real quickly when you get sick.
- beardedman 7y agoI didn't mean to be so "anecdotal" here. I do know people who are fine, I've read stories of people who are fine, the data shows most people will be fine - except that elderly age group & folks with seemingly compromised immune systems. There are exceptions of course. And it is very real, but I think people need to be cognisant of data when citing mortality rates & incidents.
- AntonStratiev 7y agoThere is no indication that 5% of the population will die. The Imperial College report finds that in a complete do-nothing scenario, 4 million Americans will die, which is only 1.2% of the population. With some mitigation (isolation of the elderly, isolation of suspect cases and their families) that number is reduced to 2 million, only 0.6% of the total population. This is the approach we need to be pursuing, and it means reopening all schools and businesses right now, and directing and supporting the elderly to self-isolate. Massively ramping up our healthcare infrastructure and preparing for massive triage is also a good idea. The alternative of complete suppression requires total shutdown for an estimated period of 18 months, until a vaccine is available. However, its worth nothing that vaccines for influenza (for reference) are only partially (50-70%) effective, and need to be renewed annually. So its likely that even in this total shutdown scenario, we are still looking at 1 million deaths - with immense and unprecedented economic and social impacts. Keep in mind, that 2.8 million Americans die annually from all causes - 0.8%. Coronavirus might mean for example that a critically ill patient dies from cancer a week earlier than otherwise.
- beardedman 7y ago5% is very much an assumption of yours right now. > those that have recovered have problems breathing (can't walk up stairs) Source?