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I was under the impression that even Apple used linux for its production web environments.

by Aloha 7y ago

rvz 7y ago
Well 'using' Linux in production is quite different to actually contributing to the development to it. From the FAANMG group of companies: Facebook, Amazon, Netflix, Microsoft and Google all have employees signing off patches under their company emails and no-one should be surprised to see no contributions from Apple to the Linux kernel anyway.
- knome 7y ago
  > to see no contributions from Apple to the Linux kernel anyway There is one person submitting patches to the linux kernel under an @apple.com address and a few more listed as having reported them. That's as of the last time I pulled the kernel repo back in November.
  - saagarjha 7y ago
    Which, compared to any company of its size, is essentially negligible.
- capableweb 7y ago
  > no-one should be surprised to see no contributions from Apple to the Linux kernel anyway Why not? I know Apple is generally looked as a closed down company, but I'm still surprised that a company with their caliber, capital, resources and engineers can't find the time to help out the community that is helping them.
  - cpach 7y ago
    AFAIK Apple favors FreeBSD and NetBSD (the latter used for the Airport routers). I wouldn’t be surprised if they have contributed code to those projects.
  - MisterTea 7y ago
    Because in Apple's case they are merely using Linux as off the shelf server software to serve a website or maybe files in their HQ. They have no need to modify Linux therefor they have no need to create patches. Apple doesn't even contribute to FreeBSD despite lifting many components for OSX AFIK. The others have deep investment in Linux and therefore contribute patches.
  - bregma 7y ago
    As someone who works for a company where the IP lawyers own your soul and constantly remind you of the fact, I would not be surprised that Apple contributions to the Linux kernel are few and far between. Don't worry, the Apple thinktroopers will catch up with those people and then they'll probably be free to contribute to any free software they want in their now-limitless leisure time.
  - saagarjha 7y ago
    Why would they care enough to make an exception to their already strict open-source policy to contribute back to GPL licensed software?
saagarjha 7y ago
I believe Apple also uses Linux to bring up their chips.

I was under the impression that even Apple used linux for its production web environments.

by Aloha 7y ago

I was under the impression that even Apple used linux for its production web environments.

rvz 7y ago

Well 'using' Linux in production is quite different to actually contributing to the development to it. From the FAANMG group of companies: Facebook, Amazon, Netflix, Microsoft and Google all have employees signing off patches under their company emails and no-one should be surprised to see no contributions from Apple to the Linux kernel anyway.

knome 7y ago
> to see no contributions from Apple to the Linux kernel anyway There is one person submitting patches to the linux kernel under an @apple.com address and a few more listed as having reported them. That's as of the last time I pulled the kernel repo back in November.
- saagarjha 7y ago
  Which, compared to any company of its size, is essentially negligible.
capableweb 7y ago
> no-one should be surprised to see no contributions from Apple to the Linux kernel anyway Why not? I know Apple is generally looked as a closed down company, but I'm still surprised that a company with their caliber, capital, resources and engineers can't find the time to help out the community that is helping them.
- cpach 7y ago
  AFAIK Apple favors FreeBSD and NetBSD (the latter used for the Airport routers). I wouldn’t be surprised if they have contributed code to those projects.
- MisterTea 7y ago
  Because in Apple's case they are merely using Linux as off the shelf server software to serve a website or maybe files in their HQ. They have no need to modify Linux therefor they have no need to create patches. Apple doesn't even contribute to FreeBSD despite lifting many components for OSX AFIK. The others have deep investment in Linux and therefore contribute patches.
- bregma 7y ago
  As someone who works for a company where the IP lawyers own your soul and constantly remind you of the fact, I would not be surprised that Apple contributions to the Linux kernel are few and far between. Don't worry, the Apple thinktroopers will catch up with those people and then they'll probably be free to contribute to any free software they want in their now-limitless leisure time.
- saagarjha 7y ago
  Why would they care enough to make an exception to their already strict open-source policy to contribute back to GPL licensed software?

saagarjha 7y ago

I believe Apple also uses Linux to bring up their chips.