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The blame game isn't helping at all. This is literally the type of situation where the concept of blameless post mortem, an idea often praised here, originates

The blame game isn't helping at all. This is literally the type of situation where the concept of blameless post mortem, an idea often praised here, originates from. The focus of everyone, regardless of nationality, should now be on solving problems of the present and helping where they can.

leereeves 7y ago
Most of us aren't medical professionals or researchers, so there's not really a lot we can do to help, other than stay home and avoid spreading the virus. Meanwhile, life goes on, including the usual political discussions. And those are important. They shouldn't end. The actions of our leaders should be scrutinized intensely at all times, even during a crisis. "The blame game" is not a productive term for holding national leaders accountable for their actions.
- bildung 7y ago
  There is still a bunch of things that everyone can do. Counter misinformation like fake-remedies or conspiracy theories your family forwards, that kind of stuff, supporting local shops by buying gift cards etc., looking out for at-risk neighbours. Here are a few ideas: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/18/learning/how-can-we-help-one-another-during-the-coronavirus-outbreak.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/18/learning/how-can-we-help-... I'm all for political discussions! But what help does it do right now discussing whether China could have acted a week earlier? I think the more important questions, analog to blameless postmortem discussions, should center on the institutions and processes. Could the CDC (or similar institutions, I'm not that familiar with the US) implement measures earlier? What hindered them? Money? Politics? etc. This was also what I was trying to convey in our sibling thread - I think it's more important to analyze why the US takes so long with implementing more impactful measures, e.g. distancing measures like canceling events are still just strong recommondations, and not enforced. I can really recommend using blameless postmortem as a process for analyzing what went wrong: https://www.atlassian.com/incident-management/postmortem/blameless https://www.atlassian.com/incident-management/postmortem/bla... https://landing.google.com/sre/sre-book/chapters/postmortem-culture/ https://landing.google.com/sre/sre-book/chapters/postmortem-...
  - leereeves 7y ago
    > I think it's more important to analyze why the US takes so long with implementing more impactful measures, e.g. distancing measures like canceling events are still just strong recommondations, and not enforced. Americans have a long and proud tradition of doing the opposite of what the government tells us to do. Ordering events cancelled and stores closed would probably lead more people to go out, just to defy the orders.

leereeves 7y ago

Most of us aren't medical professionals or researchers, so there's not really a lot we can do to help, other than stay home and avoid spreading the virus. Meanwhile, life goes on, including the usual political discussions. And those are important. They shouldn't end. The actions of our leaders should be scrutinized intensely at all times, even during a crisis. "The blame game" is not a productive term for holding national leaders accountable for their actions.

bildung 7y ago
There is still a bunch of things that everyone can do. Counter misinformation like fake-remedies or conspiracy theories your family forwards, that kind of stuff, supporting local shops by buying gift cards etc., looking out for at-risk neighbours. Here are a few ideas: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/18/learning/how-can-we-help-one-another-during-the-coronavirus-outbreak.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/18/learning/how-can-we-help-... I'm all for political discussions! But what help does it do right now discussing whether China could have acted a week earlier? I think the more important questions, analog to blameless postmortem discussions, should center on the institutions and processes. Could the CDC (or similar institutions, I'm not that familiar with the US) implement measures earlier? What hindered them? Money? Politics? etc. This was also what I was trying to convey in our sibling thread - I think it's more important to analyze why the US takes so long with implementing more impactful measures, e.g. distancing measures like canceling events are still just strong recommondations, and not enforced. I can really recommend using blameless postmortem as a process for analyzing what went wrong: https://www.atlassian.com/incident-management/postmortem/blameless https://www.atlassian.com/incident-management/postmortem/bla... https://landing.google.com/sre/sre-book/chapters/postmortem-culture/ https://landing.google.com/sre/sre-book/chapters/postmortem-...
- leereeves 7y ago
  > I think it's more important to analyze why the US takes so long with implementing more impactful measures, e.g. distancing measures like canceling events are still just strong recommondations, and not enforced. Americans have a long and proud tradition of doing the opposite of what the government tells us to do. Ordering events cancelled and stores closed would probably lead more people to go out, just to defy the orders.