6 ms·
> AFAICT Japan isn't doing anything radical to stop the spread and yet the virus is not spreading much. At best Japan asks infected people to stay at home. No l
by krtkush 7y ago
> AFAICT Japan isn't doing anything radical to stop the spread and yet the virus is not spreading much. At best Japan asks infected people to stay at home. No lock downs or quarantines. Bars, cafes, gyms and theaters are all open. Life goes on.
Reports are that they are not testing enough. We can't tell who is doing it the right way. We'll only know few months down the line.
- hcknwscommenter 7y agoThe data comes in a couple of weeks down the line, not months. If you are not testing enough (they are), then your death rate is exponential 14 days lagged. Japan is clearly doing a good job.
- gvjddbnvdrbv 7y ago28 days lagged. 5-14 day incubation period. 5-7 day low symptom period. 5-14 days to death.
- hcknwscommenter 7y agoVery good point. I think it's closer to 21 days lagged, because the vast majority (95th percentile) have a 6 day incubation period and a shorter low symptom to death period, but regardless it is clearly not months.
- aquadrop 7y agoIf they don't test enough they still would have a lot of deaths then, they have very old population. Don't think it's as simple as "they don't test enough". South Korea afaik also didn't do full blown lockdown and yet they managed to lower the speed of spreading. There are several clear anomalies that don't get much attention for some reason. Like these "no lockdown" wins in Japan and South Korea. Also, why is Germany's death rate is so much lower? They have oldest median age of population in Europe. Do they use some different medication, is it something they eat or what?
- fiblye 7y agoIt’s also very possible that the government isn’t looking into the cause of death and just sweeping it under the rug. Nearly every mention of the virus’s spread here is followed about “now what’s the effect on the olympics? What will we do without the olympics?” Ever since the last Olympics, they’ve been the main political and economic discussion topic of the whole country. TV has been talking nonstop about how this is the time Japan will finally be a world leader again, the economy is going to rise once more, English standards will be raised so all the kids can “LET’S! English with the people of the foreign country!”, every TV ad is somehow connected to the Olympics and Japan’s bright future and basically everything will be better. I can’t even pump gas without Olympics ads being played through the pump. Imagine Abe having to announce on TV that nearly half a decade of national identity is meaningless, down the drain, over, done for, and they’re out of a shitload of cash with nothing to show.
- chrisco255 7y agoWhy can't they just delay the Olympics one year?
- fiblye 7y agoThat’s not Japan’s decision to make. The Olympics®︎ tells the country they’re screwed, thanks for the cash, apply for the next 2020+4n Olympics.
- aquadrop 7y agoCovid19 is already causing a bump in overall death stats in Italy. You will definitely see it in case of wide spread in a country, only way to hide it is not report deaths at all. Do you think Japan will do that?
- claudeganon 7y agoYes, I believe they will. Go read about all the lies and ass-covering around Fukushima. Or how Japan refused to test responders to the cruise ship outbreak because if they were found positive, there wouldn’t be enough responders.
- cultofmetatron 7y agoa large subset of the Japanese population have been practicing social distancing for some time now. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hikikomori https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hikikomori