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by ethbro 7y ago

TheSpiceIsLife 7y ago
I was going to say: surely the US military maintains a manufacturing core? I’m a metal fabricator by trade, and one thing you quickly notice is: with a machine shop and a fabrication shop you are tooled up to build the machines to manufacture almost anything.
- 0xWTF 7y ago
  Folks, military physician here, operating at the national level on the analysis that informs these projects. The recent post on HN about the MIT $100 ventilator is one of the things that got this rolling. Manufacturing is spinning up. What I really need is developers on this project: https://github.com/joshua-s/coronavirus-diary https://github.com/joshua-s/coronavirus-diary
  - grogenaut 7y ago
    Josh you should put a call to action on the repo. There are no issues listed. I don't see links to anywhere that would let me help listed on the readme.
  - rickdangerous1 7y ago
    Wow...really? A MIT project with HN post is what kicked this off. As in...no one thought of this until then?
    - efp 7y ago
      welcome to the information age, where even the top brass can't make sense of it all and consequences will never be the same
  - egwor 7y ago
    What help do you need? - testers? - docs? - code reviews?
    - 0xWTF 7y ago
      Need more developers: * security engineer * iOS engineer * Android developer * Dart engineers * Flutter developers * Engineers with health industry experience * backend infrastructure * backend security Goal: 1-2 months to MVP deployment. Maybe sooner if people pile on.
  - agurk 7y ago
    From the README file on the coronavirus-diary: Coronavirus Diary is a mobile application that allows users to record their medical status, location, and activities to an encrypted vault on their device. If the user experiences symptoms in line with the disease, they will be prompted to contact their physician. In the case that a user contracts the disease, they can release their historical data to a physician to aid in treatment, research, and containment effort.
  - morphle 7y ago
    How can I contact you? There is an app already in use in the Netherlands. They are field testing at scale and releasing better versions twice a day. Next monday it will be distributed to all hospitals and most citizens. Dutch PBS prime time news had a 5 minute documentary on the app yesterday March 18th.
  - ISL 7y ago
    There are a lot of software projects spinning up -- how do we know that this one is going to see active use? As an example for my concern -- I've had a consistently-updated pull-request[1] outstanding for the JHU data repository for more than a week. It is their prerogative not to pull, but it means my contribution is largely wasted. The coronavirus-diary project has one contributor, no issues, and no pull requests. [1]https://github.com/CSSEGISandData/COVID-19/pull/296 https://github.com/CSSEGISandData/COVID-19/pull/296
    - 0xWTF 7y ago
      OP here (and no, I'm not josh). We need the project to get from 1 to 2 to 10 to N. That 1 to 2 bit is hard. Please, push a bit. JHU is bandwidth-constrained. Put your effort where it can have effect.
- sandfly 7y ago
  Machine shops are Turing complete. You can use a machine to fabricate the machine you are using.
  - tlb 7y ago
    Very few are. Making ball bearings, for example, requires very special machines that no regular shop has.
    - catherd 7y ago
      ...but you can make machines in machine shops, as pointed out above. or machines to make machines, if needed. or in the simpler case you might fall back to scraped and oiled ways and bushings
rwmurrayVT 7y ago
'Their Optical Section performs optical alignment on shafting, masts, and other equipment.' That's me! Norfolk Naval Station is just one shipyard in the area. There are similar yards with all of the same equipment. BAE/Colanna/NASSCO/NNSY/Lyons/ECSR. It's the same story in San Diego, Pascagula, Jacksonville, Hawaii.
- ethbro 7y ago
  Cool! That's the cleanest link I came across to illustrate the point. I think people forget how much end-to-end manufacturing capability the military retains (especially the Navy), even in these days of outsourced procurement pressure.
  - rwmurrayVT 7y ago
    Required to buy from USA manufacturers for nearly every thing. There are a substantial number of small shops supporting the US Navy.

https://www.navsea.navy.mil/Home/Shipyards/Norfolk/Department-Links/Production-Shops/ https://www.navsea.navy.mil/Home/Shipyards/Norfolk/Departmen...

by ethbro 7y ago

https://www.navsea.navy.mil/Home/Shipyards/Norfolk/Department-Links/Production-Shops/ https://www.navsea.navy.mil/Home/Shipyards/Norfolk/Departmen...

TheSpiceIsLife 7y ago

I was going to say: surely the US military maintains a manufacturing core? I’m a metal fabricator by trade, and one thing you quickly notice is: with a machine shop and a fabrication shop you are tooled up to build the machines to manufacture almost anything.

0xWTF 7y ago
Folks, military physician here, operating at the national level on the analysis that informs these projects. The recent post on HN about the MIT $100 ventilator is one of the things that got this rolling. Manufacturing is spinning up. What I really need is developers on this project: https://github.com/joshua-s/coronavirus-diary https://github.com/joshua-s/coronavirus-diary
- grogenaut 7y ago
  Josh you should put a call to action on the repo. There are no issues listed. I don't see links to anywhere that would let me help listed on the readme.
- rickdangerous1 7y ago
  Wow...really? A MIT project with HN post is what kicked this off. As in...no one thought of this until then?
  - efp 7y ago
    welcome to the information age, where even the top brass can't make sense of it all and consequences will never be the same
- egwor 7y ago
  What help do you need? - testers? - docs? - code reviews?
  - 0xWTF 7y ago
    Need more developers: * security engineer * iOS engineer * Android developer * Dart engineers * Flutter developers * Engineers with health industry experience * backend infrastructure * backend security Goal: 1-2 months to MVP deployment. Maybe sooner if people pile on.
- agurk 7y ago
  From the README file on the coronavirus-diary: Coronavirus Diary is a mobile application that allows users to record their medical status, location, and activities to an encrypted vault on their device. If the user experiences symptoms in line with the disease, they will be prompted to contact their physician. In the case that a user contracts the disease, they can release their historical data to a physician to aid in treatment, research, and containment effort.
- morphle 7y ago
  How can I contact you? There is an app already in use in the Netherlands. They are field testing at scale and releasing better versions twice a day. Next monday it will be distributed to all hospitals and most citizens. Dutch PBS prime time news had a 5 minute documentary on the app yesterday March 18th.
- ISL 7y ago
  There are a lot of software projects spinning up -- how do we know that this one is going to see active use? As an example for my concern -- I've had a consistently-updated pull-request[1] outstanding for the JHU data repository for more than a week. It is their prerogative not to pull, but it means my contribution is largely wasted. The coronavirus-diary project has one contributor, no issues, and no pull requests. [1]https://github.com/CSSEGISandData/COVID-19/pull/296 https://github.com/CSSEGISandData/COVID-19/pull/296
  - 0xWTF 7y ago
    OP here (and no, I'm not josh). We need the project to get from 1 to 2 to 10 to N. That 1 to 2 bit is hard. Please, push a bit. JHU is bandwidth-constrained. Put your effort where it can have effect.
sandfly 7y ago
Machine shops are Turing complete. You can use a machine to fabricate the machine you are using.
- tlb 7y ago
  Very few are. Making ball bearings, for example, requires very special machines that no regular shop has.
  - catherd 7y ago
    ...but you can make machines in machine shops, as pointed out above. or machines to make machines, if needed. or in the simpler case you might fall back to scraped and oiled ways and bushings

rwmurrayVT 7y ago

'Their Optical Section performs optical alignment on shafting, masts, and other equipment.' That's me! Norfolk Naval Station is just one shipyard in the area. There are similar yards with all of the same equipment. BAE/Colanna/NASSCO/NNSY/Lyons/ECSR. It's the same story in San Diego, Pascagula, Jacksonville, Hawaii.

ethbro 7y ago
Cool! That's the cleanest link I came across to illustrate the point. I think people forget how much end-to-end manufacturing capability the military retains (especially the Navy), even in these days of outsourced procurement pressure.
- rwmurrayVT 7y ago
  Required to buy from USA manufacturers for nearly every thing. There are a substantial number of small shops supporting the US Navy.