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Should we be sanctioned for creating mad cow?

riyadparvez 7y ago
I am not sure how this is comparable. There is a concept called degree of risk. Bats are known for being reservoir of zootonic viruses unlike common farm animals like chickens, cows etc. Moreover, eating bats is easier to give up provided that we already have lots of other safer alternatives of meats.
choeger 7y ago
Let me think about it... Some people in the food industry fed dead sheep to cows and thus created a whole new form of transmissible, deadly desease. Hmmm... Yes I think that falls into the same category.
brodouevencode 7y ago
Mad cow could hardly be called a pandemic. A whopping 231 total cases. It caused a little economic damage and comparatively no human damage.
- arcticbull 7y ago
  A lot of economic damage, over 4.4 million cows were slaughtered [1] [1] https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-45906585 https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-45906585
  - brodouevencode 7y ago
    Comparatively small. Estimates are that cost about $5.7b USD over the course of 5 years[0]. Conservative estimates are that it's going to cost $2.7t USD, and that was from before it was labeled a pandemic. [1] [0] https://www.ers.usda.gov/webdocs/publications/37404/11780_ldpm17001.pdf?v=0 https://www.ers.usda.gov/webdocs/publications/37404/11780_ld... [1] https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2020-coronavirus-pandemic-global-economic-risk/ https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2020-coronavirus-pandemic...
  - himinlomax 7y ago
    All restaurants, museums, bars, cinemas, gyms, airlines and so on are currently closed in Europe. The economic damage is going to be at least a 1000 times worse.
    - arcticbull 7y ago
      I wasn't comparing it to nCoV-19, I stated it was a lot of damage in absolute terms.
arcticbull 7y ago
Not to mention that all the leafy green recalls, such as E. Coli in the lettuce this January [1] and salmonella in the spinach last September [2]. This happens every few months, and has for as long as I can remember. E. Coli comes from faecal contamination so someone's been pooping in America's leafy greens for years. Not sure there's a whole lot of moral high-ground there. [1] https://www.cdc.gov/ecoli/2019/o157h7-11-19/index.html https://www.cdc.gov/ecoli/2019/o157h7-11-19/index.html [2] https://www.healthline.com/health-news/spinach-recalled-over-listeria-fears-2 https://www.healthline.com/health-news/spinach-recalled-over...
darawk 7y ago
We should and we reworked our processes to try to prevent it in the future.
himinlomax 7y ago
It wasn't a pandemic, it was dealt with as soon as the problem was identified. Wet markets have been known to a problem for over a decade, nothing was done until after this crisis started.

I am not sure how this is comparable. There is a concept called degree of risk. Bats are known for being reservoir of zootonic viruses unlike common farm animals like chickens, cows etc. Moreover, eating bats is easier to give up provided that we already have lots of other safer alternatives of meats.

choeger 7y ago

Let me think about it... Some people in the food industry fed dead sheep to cows and thus created a whole new form of transmissible, deadly desease. Hmmm... Yes I think that falls into the same category.

brodouevencode 7y ago

Mad cow could hardly be called a pandemic. A whopping 231 total cases. It caused a little economic damage and comparatively no human damage.

arcticbull 7y ago
A lot of economic damage, over 4.4 million cows were slaughtered [1] [1] https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-45906585 https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-45906585
- brodouevencode 7y ago
  Comparatively small. Estimates are that cost about $5.7b USD over the course of 5 years[0]. Conservative estimates are that it's going to cost $2.7t USD, and that was from before it was labeled a pandemic. [1] [0] https://www.ers.usda.gov/webdocs/publications/37404/11780_ldpm17001.pdf?v=0 https://www.ers.usda.gov/webdocs/publications/37404/11780_ld... [1] https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2020-coronavirus-pandemic-global-economic-risk/ https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2020-coronavirus-pandemic...
- himinlomax 7y ago
  All restaurants, museums, bars, cinemas, gyms, airlines and so on are currently closed in Europe. The economic damage is going to be at least a 1000 times worse.
  - arcticbull 7y ago
    I wasn't comparing it to nCoV-19, I stated it was a lot of damage in absolute terms.

arcticbull 7y ago

Not to mention that all the leafy green recalls, such as E. Coli in the lettuce this January [1] and salmonella in the spinach last September [2]. This happens every few months, and has for as long as I can remember. E. Coli comes from faecal contamination so someone's been pooping in America's leafy greens for years. Not sure there's a whole lot of moral high-ground there. [1] https://www.cdc.gov/ecoli/2019/o157h7-11-19/index.html https://www.cdc.gov/ecoli/2019/o157h7-11-19/index.html [2] https://www.healthline.com/health-news/spinach-recalled-over-listeria-fears-2 https://www.healthline.com/health-news/spinach-recalled-over...

darawk 7y ago

We should and we reworked our processes to try to prevent it in the future.

himinlomax 7y ago

It wasn't a pandemic, it was dealt with as soon as the problem was identified. Wet markets have been known to a problem for over a decade, nothing was done until after this crisis started.