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I would think the best way to measure performance would be overall improvement rather than overall performance. That way there'd be more opportunity for higher

I would think the best way to measure performance would be overall improvement rather than overall performance. That way there'd be more opportunity for higher compensation in poor schools. Or better yet, let the market decide who the best teachers are. If teacher A's students are consistently graduating from college and teacher B's students are not, parents are going to vote with their dollars and send their children to teacher A. In the current system, this isn't allowed to happen. "if there was one employer in your town (as there effectively is in many rural areas when it comes to schools), should you relocate because of abuse you have received?" Yes. That, or start a competing company. If the abuses are really bad, you'd no doubt attract a lot of other disgruntled employees who'd prefer to work for a better company. Jobs are not a right, no matter how badly people want them to be.

zarify 16y ago
"If the abuses are really bad, you'd no doubt attract a lot of other disgruntled employees who'd prefer to work for a better company." So uh, that'd pretty much be like a union, right? A group of people effectively saying that they won't work under certain conditions? ;) I suspect we'll fundamentally disagree on the first point about parents voting with their feet/wallets, since that kinda describes the private school system, and I'm a firm believer in the same education being available to everyone (freely, if possible, and cheaply if not).
- yummyfajitas 16y ago
  I'm a firm believer in the same education being available to everyone (freely, if possible, and cheaply if not). A popular conservative position is to give all students the same educational opportunity by allowing parents to take their children's education dollars to private schools.
  - zarify 16y ago
    I'm aware of that one. I suspect the parents who can barely afford materials for voluntary fee public schools may disagree however ;) (Of course I suppose the conservative counter to that is to get a better job, and that they'd have enough money if taxes weren't contributing to education dollars :)
- marknutter 16y ago
  Not like a union at all. Unions do not form businesses. Maybe they should, then they may come to realize how difficult running a successful business can be.

zarify 16y ago

"If the abuses are really bad, you'd no doubt attract a lot of other disgruntled employees who'd prefer to work for a better company." So uh, that'd pretty much be like a union, right? A group of people effectively saying that they won't work under certain conditions? ;) I suspect we'll fundamentally disagree on the first point about parents voting with their feet/wallets, since that kinda describes the private school system, and I'm a firm believer in the same education being available to everyone (freely, if possible, and cheaply if not).

yummyfajitas 16y ago
I'm a firm believer in the same education being available to everyone (freely, if possible, and cheaply if not). A popular conservative position is to give all students the same educational opportunity by allowing parents to take their children's education dollars to private schools.
- zarify 16y ago
  I'm aware of that one. I suspect the parents who can barely afford materials for voluntary fee public schools may disagree however ;) (Of course I suppose the conservative counter to that is to get a better job, and that they'd have enough money if taxes weren't contributing to education dollars :)
marknutter 16y ago
Not like a union at all. Unions do not form businesses. Maybe they should, then they may come to realize how difficult running a successful business can be.