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It's also so perverse around the world. Until we can provide adequate non wet market food stores and supplies, most notably at affordable pricing for these ofte

It's also so perverse around the world. Until we can provide adequate non wet market food stores and supplies, most notably at affordable pricing for these often highly impoverished areas, there isn't much for change. Further it brings into question the items that are good or bad. Is "Racoon Dog" ok or not? Can they sell "Bats"? Then as you mention, people are going to stick to what they do. Good example, how many people are out and about even though the US government said "please stay home". It's easy to point a finger and say do as I say and not as I do, but until we solve the global issue of food / health, it will be hard to enact any tight control over these types of situations.

enchiridion 7y ago
Somehow the rest of the world doesn't have this problem. Let's start by not keeping live animals in food markets. Introduce food processing standards. Go from there. Yes they are impoverished, but this is grinding humanity to a halt. It is probably the most impactful money we can spend.
cwzwarich 7y ago
> Further it brings into question the items that are good or bad. Is "Racoon Dog" ok or not? Can they sell "Bats"? As far as I understand things (which is only from reading articles and watching YouTube videos of people visiting these markets), most of the animals like bats, civets, pangolins, etc. that are implicated in zoonotic diseases are delicacies rather than staples. If they were banned, nobody would starve.
- mschuster91 7y ago
  French eat snails and frogs. Australians eat kangaroos. Americans eat alligators. People across the world eat local food as delicacies or sometimes as staple foods. What is so different about Chinese wildlife? What matters and should be fixed is sanitary standards, not what kind of meat the Chinese eat.
  - cwzwarich 7y ago
    Some animals show more viral diversity than others. Amongst mammals, bats are somewhat unique: https://www.the-scientist.com/news-opinion/where-coronaviruses-come-from-67011 https://www.the-scientist.com/news-opinion/where-coronavirus... https://www.the-scientist.com/notebook/why-bats-make-such-good-viral-hosts-64251 https://www.the-scientist.com/notebook/why-bats-make-such-go... http://nature.com/articles/doi:10.1038/nature22975 http://nature.com/articles/doi:10.1038/nature22975 The research on Chinese coronavirus outbreaks indicates that bats are a large reservoir for these viruses, and they frequently infect other animals, but it is difficult to pinpoint the final jump to humans exactly. Given the unique status of bats in this regard, it's probably best to keep live ones away from humans or other animals intended for human consumption.

enchiridion 7y ago

Somehow the rest of the world doesn't have this problem. Let's start by not keeping live animals in food markets. Introduce food processing standards. Go from there. Yes they are impoverished, but this is grinding humanity to a halt. It is probably the most impactful money we can spend.

cwzwarich 7y ago

> Further it brings into question the items that are good or bad. Is "Racoon Dog" ok or not? Can they sell "Bats"? As far as I understand things (which is only from reading articles and watching YouTube videos of people visiting these markets), most of the animals like bats, civets, pangolins, etc. that are implicated in zoonotic diseases are delicacies rather than staples. If they were banned, nobody would starve.

mschuster91 7y ago
French eat snails and frogs. Australians eat kangaroos. Americans eat alligators. People across the world eat local food as delicacies or sometimes as staple foods. What is so different about Chinese wildlife? What matters and should be fixed is sanitary standards, not what kind of meat the Chinese eat.
- cwzwarich 7y ago
  Some animals show more viral diversity than others. Amongst mammals, bats are somewhat unique: https://www.the-scientist.com/news-opinion/where-coronaviruses-come-from-67011 https://www.the-scientist.com/news-opinion/where-coronavirus... https://www.the-scientist.com/notebook/why-bats-make-such-good-viral-hosts-64251 https://www.the-scientist.com/notebook/why-bats-make-such-go... http://nature.com/articles/doi:10.1038/nature22975 http://nature.com/articles/doi:10.1038/nature22975 The research on Chinese coronavirus outbreaks indicates that bats are a large reservoir for these viruses, and they frequently infect other animals, but it is difficult to pinpoint the final jump to humans exactly. Given the unique status of bats in this regard, it's probably best to keep live ones away from humans or other animals intended for human consumption.