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"Bold and significant" eh? Kind of like the "bold and significant" test kits that never materialized, or the "bold and significant" quarantine process we should

"Bold and significant" eh? Kind of like the "bold and significant" test kits that never materialized, or the "bold and significant" quarantine process we should've instituted as soon as the first patient was discovered.

techntoke 7y ago
They meant bold and significant for the corporate bailouts. Socialism for thee but not for me.
- kortilla 7y ago
  Corporate “bailouts” are just loans.
  - rapind 7y ago
    Not terribly interested in this thread, but for the record %0 interest loans when they're big (billions of dollars) are effectively the same as handing out free money. A bank would need to be ridiculously incompetent not to turn those loans into significant profits (and hey, give out executive bonuses too!).
    - kortilla 7y ago
      Which 0% bailouts are you referring to that gave billions to a single company? Sounds a bit like a straw man to me.
      - rapind 7y ago
        Well you brought it up, so which bailout are you referring to when you said "Corporate “bailouts” are just loans." that isn't referring to billion(s) dollar loans?
tathougies 7y ago
> or the "bold and significant" quarantine process we should've instituted as soon as the first patient was discovered. The US was quarantining americans returning from covid countries with CDC quarantine orders (federally enforceable) since Jan 31?
- ookblah 7y ago
  LOL minus the diamond princess or the obvious one from like the woman from Iran? people were falling thru the cracks like candy, i happen to know 1 or 2 people that were confused they weren't even screened at the border. i suggest you do more than just take any announcement from the WH at face value, especially when there are numerous sources saying otherwise.
  - tathougies 7y ago
    Links? The people returned from diamond princess were subject to a 14 day quarantine at army bases? https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2020/s0215-Diamond-Princess-Repatriation.html https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2020/s0215-Diamond-Prince... But, yes america has an obligation to repatriate american citizens, and subjecting them to quarantine is the right thing to do. I have no doubt people were falling through cracks though. America has an incredibly open border with lax enforcement, mainly due to partisan bickering. Hopefully, this will get everyone on board with border security
    - ookblah 7y ago
      i'm saying the diamond princess people were probably the few that were properly quarantined given the news coverage. the flight entry points during that time didn't even bother, just asked a few questions on where you were coming from.
unishark 7y ago
The tests are finally materializing, though they did keep running into new issues after promising they had it all worked out. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/testing-in-us.html https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/test...

techntoke 7y ago

They meant bold and significant for the corporate bailouts. Socialism for thee but not for me.

kortilla 7y ago
Corporate “bailouts” are just loans.
- rapind 7y ago
  Not terribly interested in this thread, but for the record %0 interest loans when they're big (billions of dollars) are effectively the same as handing out free money. A bank would need to be ridiculously incompetent not to turn those loans into significant profits (and hey, give out executive bonuses too!).
  - kortilla 7y ago
    Which 0% bailouts are you referring to that gave billions to a single company? Sounds a bit like a straw man to me.
    - rapind 7y ago
      Well you brought it up, so which bailout are you referring to when you said "Corporate “bailouts” are just loans." that isn't referring to billion(s) dollar loans?

tathougies 7y ago

> or the "bold and significant" quarantine process we should've instituted as soon as the first patient was discovered. The US was quarantining americans returning from covid countries with CDC quarantine orders (federally enforceable) since Jan 31?

ookblah 7y ago
LOL minus the diamond princess or the obvious one from like the woman from Iran? people were falling thru the cracks like candy, i happen to know 1 or 2 people that were confused they weren't even screened at the border. i suggest you do more than just take any announcement from the WH at face value, especially when there are numerous sources saying otherwise.
- tathougies 7y ago
  Links? The people returned from diamond princess were subject to a 14 day quarantine at army bases? https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2020/s0215-Diamond-Princess-Repatriation.html https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2020/s0215-Diamond-Prince... But, yes america has an obligation to repatriate american citizens, and subjecting them to quarantine is the right thing to do. I have no doubt people were falling through cracks though. America has an incredibly open border with lax enforcement, mainly due to partisan bickering. Hopefully, this will get everyone on board with border security
  - ookblah 7y ago
    i'm saying the diamond princess people were probably the few that were properly quarantined given the news coverage. the flight entry points during that time didn't even bother, just asked a few questions on where you were coming from.

unishark 7y ago

The tests are finally materializing, though they did keep running into new issues after promising they had it all worked out. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/testing-in-us.html https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/test...