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If IntelliJ can't handle realtime rendering of text on modern hardware, perhaps the problem is with the software? My kid spilled a glass of water on my 2018 Ma
by hugi 7y ago
If IntelliJ can't handle realtime rendering of text on modern hardware, perhaps the problem is with the software?
My kid spilled a glass of water on my 2018 MacBook last year (sob). At that time, word was out about the 2019 MacBooks with the new keyboards, so I decided to hold out, took out an old 2012 Mac Mini and have been doing my (Java/Swift) development on it for the past few months. It works so well, I've been in no hurry to pick up a new MacBook. Definitely don't feel animations or anything is laggy.
- FpUser 7y agoIntelliJ tools always felt like molasses to me. Maybe has something to do with them being done in Java. Most of my dev tools are native and the feeling is totally different.
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- hugi 7y agoWell, my two primary tools are Xcode and Eclipse. Xcode is native but Eclipse is much, much faster. I doubt appliction performance has much to do with the language they're written in.
- FpUser 7y agoNot the language but what it compiles to and of course some sorcery that few people possess. Anyways I had actually used Eclipse and did not find it particularly responsive. Been a while so maybe it is faster now.
- trumpeta 7y agoyeah they have a bunch of open bugs about performance making it unusable, they are even rewriting their rendering to use Metal underneath
- nine_k 7y agoYes, the problem must be in software, but not that software. IntelliJ is quite fast for me both on Windows and on Linux, no typing lag.
- hugi 7y agoIntelliJ is unusable on my Mac Mini hardware.
- nine_k 7y agoI'm afraid it's partly the problem of macOS and the Java implementation for it. That's what I meant speaking about "other" software.
- hugi 7y agoBut Eclipse and all other java software is amazingly fast. It's just IntelliJ that's really slow. I can't see how that can be blamed on "the java implementation"? But is it a fact that the macOS Java implementation is bad? Do you have benchmarks or something else to support that?
- gurkendoktor 7y agoIndeed it is a software problem. In my experience, JetBrains IDEs perform terribly on macOS as soon as you use a 5K/scaled 4K screen. A good GPU doesn't help. I've just upgraded to a new 16" MacBook Pro with the maxed-out GPU hoping it could handle CLion on a 4K screen, but it's still worse than anything that I've ever seen on Linux. (Not to mention that this laptop generally suffers from input lag.) One of the many bug tracker threads about this issue: https://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/JBR-526?p=JRE-526 https://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/JBR-526?p=JRE-526 There's a linked ticket about rewriting the renderer to use Metal on macOS, hopefully that will solve the issue once and for all.