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I wonder, if people just stopped working or moved on some covid related project?

by czechdeveloper 7y ago

nkozyra 7y ago
I'm sure that's part of it but going remote also introduces a ton a workflow impediments as the team adjusts.
- dijit 7y ago
  At google? I find it harder to believe that google is not equipped for remote work than somewhere like Ubisoft (where I work) which is having serious pain as testing games over RDP is bandwidth heavy and horribly laggy. And we’re not pushing any releases as far as I’m aware.
  - luckydata 7y ago
    Remote work is one thing, working with kids at home because daycare is closed, not being able to lead a normal life, people getting sick... that's a completely different matter.
    - deleted 7y ago
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- rcfw 7y ago
  There are a lot of obstacles for temps/contractors to gain remote access at google. I'd imagine a lot of testing is done by people who aren't FTEs. disclaimer: I am a Googler, but know nothing about how the Chrome team operates
  - zeveb 7y ago
    > There are a lot of obstacles for temps/contractors to gain remote access at google. I thought that Google were all-in on BeyondCorp, which doesn't require a secure perimetre. Did they not actually convert everything, or is it still in progress? (edit: removed a non-constructive suggestion)
    - eitally 7y ago
      BeyondCorp gives you basic access to unprotected things on the network (intranet, google apps, etc), but not to secure systems, source code, etc.
      - exikyut 7y ago
        Out of curiosity, how does that work? VPN? Remote desktop? Both?
  - hanse00 7y ago
    One man’s obstacle is another man’s security measure :) I used to work in Techstop, I wonder how crazy of a time that team is having right now. But I wouldn’t call them an obstacle.
    - cameronbrown 7y ago
      Techstop and CorpEng have been absolutely amazing through this situation -- I wish them them the best.
mpalmer 7y ago
I believe major releases are blocked because much of the QA staff isn't authorized to access key systems remotely.
- londons_explore 7y ago
  A project like Chrome, where there is no super high value source code, shouldn't really be having this issue...
  - est31 7y ago
    Chrome runs with user privileges on billions of computers. The impact of someone hacking the software delivery chain and inserting malware is enourmous, let alone the risk for the brand/user trust. And don't forget that Chrome is not a charity project, but meant to secure Google's search and adtech monopoly. They actually pay a lot of money for Firefox to ship their search engine as default, and that's for a tiny market share.
kinlan 7y ago
The blog post is pretty accurate. I know it seems pretty general, but nearly the entire team is working remote and at the same time it's not prudent to push change on the ecosystem when everyone is trying to keep their site running.

I wonder, if people just stopped working or moved on some covid related project?

nkozyra 7y ago

I'm sure that's part of it but going remote also introduces a ton a workflow impediments as the team adjusts.

dijit 7y ago
At google? I find it harder to believe that google is not equipped for remote work than somewhere like Ubisoft (where I work) which is having serious pain as testing games over RDP is bandwidth heavy and horribly laggy. And we’re not pushing any releases as far as I’m aware.
- luckydata 7y ago
  Remote work is one thing, working with kids at home because daycare is closed, not being able to lead a normal life, people getting sick... that's a completely different matter.
  - deleted 7y ago
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rcfw 7y ago
There are a lot of obstacles for temps/contractors to gain remote access at google. I'd imagine a lot of testing is done by people who aren't FTEs. disclaimer: I am a Googler, but know nothing about how the Chrome team operates
- zeveb 7y ago
  > There are a lot of obstacles for temps/contractors to gain remote access at google. I thought that Google were all-in on BeyondCorp, which doesn't require a secure perimetre. Did they not actually convert everything, or is it still in progress? (edit: removed a non-constructive suggestion)
  - eitally 7y ago
    BeyondCorp gives you basic access to unprotected things on the network (intranet, google apps, etc), but not to secure systems, source code, etc.
    - exikyut 7y ago
      Out of curiosity, how does that work? VPN? Remote desktop? Both?
- hanse00 7y ago
  One man’s obstacle is another man’s security measure :) I used to work in Techstop, I wonder how crazy of a time that team is having right now. But I wouldn’t call them an obstacle.
  - cameronbrown 7y ago
    Techstop and CorpEng have been absolutely amazing through this situation -- I wish them them the best.

mpalmer 7y ago

I believe major releases are blocked because much of the QA staff isn't authorized to access key systems remotely.

londons_explore 7y ago
A project like Chrome, where there is no super high value source code, shouldn't really be having this issue...
- est31 7y ago
  Chrome runs with user privileges on billions of computers. The impact of someone hacking the software delivery chain and inserting malware is enourmous, let alone the risk for the brand/user trust. And don't forget that Chrome is not a charity project, but meant to secure Google's search and adtech monopoly. They actually pay a lot of money for Firefox to ship their search engine as default, and that's for a tiny market share.

kinlan 7y ago

The blog post is pretty accurate. I know it seems pretty general, but nearly the entire team is working remote and at the same time it's not prudent to push change on the ecosystem when everyone is trying to keep their site running.