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This is confusing to me too. The best explanation I've heard is that the market is expecting a future increase in bond supply (gov bond issuance to fund coronav

This is confusing to me too. The best explanation I've heard is that the market is expecting a future increase in bond supply (gov bond issuance to fund coronavirus mitigation measures), which would drive prices down and yields up. This future price pressure is being priced into bonds today. Bitcoin crashed as well and gold isn't overperforming either. So rather than having a huge transfer of assets from stocks to bonds/gold/bitcoin like we've seen during past periods of market volatility, I think we are seeing falling prices across all the forementioned asset groups. The one open question for me is Real Estate (I work for a small commercial real estate developer). REITs are down 20%. My contacts in the Broker community have told me individual property sales transactions have dried up due to an inability to do property showings combined with no interest from buyers or sellers to make big moves until things shake out. RE moves slow so we haven't yet seen how this dynamic will impact sales prices.

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SilasX 7y ago
>This is confusing to me too. The best explanation I've heard is that the market is expecting a future increase in bond supply (gov bond issuance to fund coronavirus mitigation measures), which would drive prices down and yields up. This future price pressure is being priced into bonds today. Interesting! If so, maybe we could see an end to the financial markets' seemingly insatiable demand for Treasurys?
- manic85 7y ago
  Hard to say right now, but it's likely that bonds won't go up again until people believe the rate of new bond issuances will go down. On another note, the federal funds rate is at zero but bank stocks are cratering anyway, possibly because Trump announced there will be no foreclosures/evictions through April. So landlords and homeowners have no incentive to pay their mortgages for a couple months, which will definitely hurt banks.
- jcfrei 7y ago
  I don't know about the demand side but supply is definitely going up around the world. For the massive stimulus packages in the US and Europe lots of new bonds will be issued by governments. Additionally lots of companies around the world are drawing on their credit lines which means banks need to reduce their treasury holdings for USD. The only question that seems to matter is how high will central banks allow yields to rise?

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SilasX 7y ago

>This is confusing to me too. The best explanation I've heard is that the market is expecting a future increase in bond supply (gov bond issuance to fund coronavirus mitigation measures), which would drive prices down and yields up. This future price pressure is being priced into bonds today. Interesting! If so, maybe we could see an end to the financial markets' seemingly insatiable demand for Treasurys?

manic85 7y ago
Hard to say right now, but it's likely that bonds won't go up again until people believe the rate of new bond issuances will go down. On another note, the federal funds rate is at zero but bank stocks are cratering anyway, possibly because Trump announced there will be no foreclosures/evictions through April. So landlords and homeowners have no incentive to pay their mortgages for a couple months, which will definitely hurt banks.
jcfrei 7y ago
I don't know about the demand side but supply is definitely going up around the world. For the massive stimulus packages in the US and Europe lots of new bonds will be issued by governments. Additionally lots of companies around the world are drawing on their credit lines which means banks need to reduce their treasury holdings for USD. The only question that seems to matter is how high will central banks allow yields to rise?