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True, but a more charitable take is that the high price goes to subsidize macOS development. Having just moved to a Windows 10 shop running on cheapest-possibl

True, but a more charitable take is that the high price goes to subsidize macOS development. Having just moved to a Windows 10 shop running on cheapest-possible Dell hotdesking workstations, I’m starting to miss macOS and all its command-spacebar glory!

asveikau 7y ago
But people often speculative that macOS development is on the back burner these days. Release to release they have not seemed to add much of use in a long time. They keep introducing new limitations on apps and deprecating stuff. That has questionable utility if your goal is to get work done. Of course Windows 10 is also in bad shape.
emsy 7y ago
Try pressing the windows key (granted, it's not as pretty as Spotlight).
- bradstewart 7y ago
  This is honestly the thing I miss most while using macOS. The windows key search always seemed to work better than Spotlight.
  - dep_b 7y ago
    I don't know what you like about it? When I use Windows I try to use it to find Control Panels to set up stuff and it does a horrible job at that. In macOS you'll find Disk Utility by typing "disk utility" in CMD+SPACE, even when you're on a different language system that has it's own name. I couldn't find anything in Windows even when that was the literal name of the panel. And hunting for formerly easy to find settings is one of the things that already drives me crazy in Windows 10. Also when I type "alert sound" I still find the Sound and Notifications Control Panels even if they're not full matches, but they do deal with alerts. There's a lot about Windows I like though. It's just not the UX, apart from the Explorer once I exactly set it up as I like it (well it looks the same as Windows 95 mostly).
    - bradstewart 7y ago
      I generally have the opposite experience you've described--I can find exactly what I need in settings/Control Panel on Windows, but rarely on macOS. Could be that I'm just used to the names of things in Windows? Realistically, they both get the job done.
      - emsy 7y ago
        Spotlight is better at understanding multiple languages (accidentally typing the English name on a German System often yields the right result), synonyms and results inside windows. I think this is mainly due to Apples accessibility efforts. Windows is much more picky. But most of the time you just want to start an app anyway.
        bradstewart 7y ago
        That is entirely possible. I'm in an English bubble.
    - jayd16 7y ago
      Hit the windows key and type "disk man" and the disk manager pops up. Maybe you're just used to the OSX names for things? Search "alert" brings up the audio settings. I'm not sure what you're doing differently.
      - dep_b 7y ago
        It's hard to give exact examples now I'm not behind a Windows machine. But I didn't have a great time finding stuff on a non-English machine even when I typed in the name exactly as it appeared in the top bar when I finally found it and opened it.
    - vbezhenar 7y ago
      I pressed "Win" and typed "Control". Control panel was the first and default choice. And my Windows is not even using English locale. I admit that this search sometimes works strange, but it adapts to me, so when I'm launching some program often, it remembers that and will always put that program on the top.
thefounder 7y ago
Perhaps you should buy something more in the price range of the mac-mini to make a real comparison rather than the cheapest dell.
- qayxc 7y ago
  I don't think they have much choice in what their employer deems sufficient for getting work done.
  - jhoechtl 7y ago
    And I suspect their employer is right that they get their job done a cheap Dell. Excel works well on a cheap Dell!
striking 7y ago
Have you tried http://keypirinha.com/ http://keypirinha.com/ ?
banachtarski 7y ago
Have used mac for many years. Never miss spotlight on Linux or Windows. First, you do have that functionality if you need it. Second, the spotlight indexing takes a non-trivial amount of CPU time and is honestly annoying when I need the juice to finish a render or compile code. My guess is you're just suffering from "unfamiliarity" syndrome.
jrace 7y ago
In windows just press the windows key and then type the name off the app you want (same as command spacebar in macOS) One less button press than on a mac.
- oneplane 7y ago
  Only if it works. Which often it doesn't. And by doesn't I don't mean it doesn't do it 100% correctly but I mean it doesn't find a program or file even if you type the whole name completely. It just gives no result at all for some terms.

asveikau 7y ago

But people often speculative that macOS development is on the back burner these days. Release to release they have not seemed to add much of use in a long time. They keep introducing new limitations on apps and deprecating stuff. That has questionable utility if your goal is to get work done. Of course Windows 10 is also in bad shape.

emsy 7y ago

Try pressing the windows key (granted, it's not as pretty as Spotlight).

bradstewart 7y ago
This is honestly the thing I miss most while using macOS. The windows key search always seemed to work better than Spotlight.
- dep_b 7y ago
  I don't know what you like about it? When I use Windows I try to use it to find Control Panels to set up stuff and it does a horrible job at that. In macOS you'll find Disk Utility by typing "disk utility" in CMD+SPACE, even when you're on a different language system that has it's own name. I couldn't find anything in Windows even when that was the literal name of the panel. And hunting for formerly easy to find settings is one of the things that already drives me crazy in Windows 10. Also when I type "alert sound" I still find the Sound and Notifications Control Panels even if they're not full matches, but they do deal with alerts. There's a lot about Windows I like though. It's just not the UX, apart from the Explorer once I exactly set it up as I like it (well it looks the same as Windows 95 mostly).
  - bradstewart 7y ago
    I generally have the opposite experience you've described--I can find exactly what I need in settings/Control Panel on Windows, but rarely on macOS. Could be that I'm just used to the names of things in Windows? Realistically, they both get the job done.
    - emsy 7y ago
      Spotlight is better at understanding multiple languages (accidentally typing the English name on a German System often yields the right result), synonyms and results inside windows. I think this is mainly due to Apples accessibility efforts. Windows is much more picky. But most of the time you just want to start an app anyway.
      - bradstewart 7y ago
        That is entirely possible. I'm in an English bubble.
  - jayd16 7y ago
    Hit the windows key and type "disk man" and the disk manager pops up. Maybe you're just used to the OSX names for things? Search "alert" brings up the audio settings. I'm not sure what you're doing differently.
    - dep_b 7y ago
      It's hard to give exact examples now I'm not behind a Windows machine. But I didn't have a great time finding stuff on a non-English machine even when I typed in the name exactly as it appeared in the top bar when I finally found it and opened it.
  - vbezhenar 7y ago
    I pressed "Win" and typed "Control". Control panel was the first and default choice. And my Windows is not even using English locale. I admit that this search sometimes works strange, but it adapts to me, so when I'm launching some program often, it remembers that and will always put that program on the top.

thefounder 7y ago

Perhaps you should buy something more in the price range of the mac-mini to make a real comparison rather than the cheapest dell.

qayxc 7y ago
I don't think they have much choice in what their employer deems sufficient for getting work done.
- jhoechtl 7y ago
  And I suspect their employer is right that they get their job done a cheap Dell. Excel works well on a cheap Dell!

striking 7y ago

Have you tried http://keypirinha.com/ http://keypirinha.com/ ?

banachtarski 7y ago

Have used mac for many years. Never miss spotlight on Linux or Windows. First, you do have that functionality if you need it. Second, the spotlight indexing takes a non-trivial amount of CPU time and is honestly annoying when I need the juice to finish a render or compile code. My guess is you're just suffering from "unfamiliarity" syndrome.

jrace 7y ago

In windows just press the windows key and then type the name off the app you want (same as command spacebar in macOS) One less button press than on a mac.

oneplane 7y ago
Only if it works. Which often it doesn't. And by doesn't I don't mean it doesn't do it 100% correctly but I mean it doesn't find a program or file even if you type the whole name completely. It just gives no result at all for some terms.