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Only up to 6-core 8th generation CPUs, and it looks like the base 6-core SKU is the i5-8500, which doesn’t have Hyperthreading. Ouch. It’s such a shame that’s

Only up to 6-core 8th generation CPUs, and it looks like the base 6-core SKU is the i5-8500, which doesn’t have Hyperthreading. Ouch. It’s such a shame that’s the best Intel can do in that thermal envelope. AMD is about to ship Ryzen 4000 mobile chips with lower TDP, great integrated graphics, higher clock speeds and more cores. It would have worked fine in the Mac mini. Imagine how good the desktop APUs will be when those come out.

phkahler 7y ago
>> Imagine how good the desktop APUs will be when those come out. I'm starting to think there won't be any more desktop APUs. The next logical step would be an 8 core CPU with better GPU than the 3400G. That would be good enough desktop for a huge swath of the market and might kill sales of higher end chips. I use a 2400G for software development. It's the fastest cpu I've ever owned. It runs a 4k desktop, 4k video, or 4k gaming (old stuff I'm not a "gamer") without even running the fan loudly. The main thing I want is AV1 decode on the GPU.
- hajile 7y ago
  I'd love to see a 4800G chip with 8 cores, 20-30 CUs, and 16/32GB onboard HBM2 unified memory in the $400/600 range (depending on RAM).
  - jagger27 7y ago
    Oh wow that’d be really cool. You could pretty much consider that to be L4 cache.
  - phkahler 7y ago
    >> I'd love to see a 4800G chip with 8 cores, 20-30 CUs, and 16/32GB onboard HBM2 unified memory in the $400/600 range (depending on RAM). It will more likely have only 8 CUs like the laptop chips but with a higher TDP (65W?) and clock. OTOH probably only $200ish. Still a killer desktop value.
- jagger27 7y ago
  That’s a fair assessment and is probably why they’ve launched their high core count CPUs and $400 range GPUs in this order. I’m more than happy with my 2700X but I wish I didn’t jump on the 5700 XT. It’s too loud and hot.
vbezhenar 7y ago
That's not the best Intel can do. There's 9th generation CPUs which Apple decided not to use.
- jagger27 7y ago
  Yes, they could have gone with the i7-9700 trading 6c/12t for 8c/8t. There's also the question of power, which despite both being marketed as 65W parts do not have the same thermals. Maybe the i9-9900T would have worked?
Joeri 7y ago
That i5 is a 65W desktop part, not a mobile part. It is faster than the i7 9750H of the 16 inch macbook pro. I'm highly doubtful most people here have workloads that it wouldn't be able to handle.

phkahler 7y ago

>> Imagine how good the desktop APUs will be when those come out. I'm starting to think there won't be any more desktop APUs. The next logical step would be an 8 core CPU with better GPU than the 3400G. That would be good enough desktop for a huge swath of the market and might kill sales of higher end chips. I use a 2400G for software development. It's the fastest cpu I've ever owned. It runs a 4k desktop, 4k video, or 4k gaming (old stuff I'm not a "gamer") without even running the fan loudly. The main thing I want is AV1 decode on the GPU.

hajile 7y ago
I'd love to see a 4800G chip with 8 cores, 20-30 CUs, and 16/32GB onboard HBM2 unified memory in the $400/600 range (depending on RAM).
- jagger27 7y ago
  Oh wow that’d be really cool. You could pretty much consider that to be L4 cache.
- phkahler 7y ago
  >> I'd love to see a 4800G chip with 8 cores, 20-30 CUs, and 16/32GB onboard HBM2 unified memory in the $400/600 range (depending on RAM). It will more likely have only 8 CUs like the laptop chips but with a higher TDP (65W?) and clock. OTOH probably only $200ish. Still a killer desktop value.
jagger27 7y ago
That’s a fair assessment and is probably why they’ve launched their high core count CPUs and $400 range GPUs in this order. I’m more than happy with my 2700X but I wish I didn’t jump on the 5700 XT. It’s too loud and hot.

vbezhenar 7y ago

That's not the best Intel can do. There's 9th generation CPUs which Apple decided not to use.

jagger27 7y ago
Yes, they could have gone with the i7-9700 trading 6c/12t for 8c/8t. There's also the question of power, which despite both being marketed as 65W parts do not have the same thermals. Maybe the i9-9900T would have worked?

Joeri 7y ago

That i5 is a 65W desktop part, not a mobile part. It is faster than the i7 9750H of the 16 inch macbook pro. I'm highly doubtful most people here have workloads that it wouldn't be able to handle.