> It's pretty obvious from any standpoint. If it was obvious from any standpoint, we obviously wouldn't be having this blog post or this discussion thread. Na

> It's pretty obvious from any standpoint. If it was obvious from any standpoint, we obviously wouldn't be having this blog post or this discussion thread. Natural language - the natural way to think about things - does not always intuitively translate over to predicate logic. If you disagree with that, you should try teaching it to a class of high schoolers.