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I second this it seems more and more like massa hysteria. 8.000 people died on 7.7 billion people. Its crazy to pull the handbrake on the economy. 99% of the p

I second this it seems more and more like massa hysteria. 8.000 people died on 7.7 billion people. Its crazy to pull the handbrake on the economy. 99% of the people that died were going to be death in a year or 2 anyway. Have you heard about that school class full of 6 years old kids in Italy that died last a week? Didn't happen but when it happens we do not have this options anymore. Old people die and thats life.

hatenberg 7y ago
This talk at the start of an exponential curve is exactly the problem
- spookthesunset 7y ago
  I wonder how many people are fitting the “how many people are tested” to the same exponential curve? If there is exponential growth in the number of tests given, it follows there would be an exponential growth in number of cases detected.
  - jsight 7y ago
    That is absolutely true, which is one of the reasons that it is surprising that the curve isn't any higher than it is.
ornornor 7y ago
The problem is that so many people are ill or die within a very very short window instead of being spread out as it is before the epidemic. From a purely selfish point of view, assuming the disease will be a minor inconvenience to you because you’re young and healthy, there are other things to consider: - what happens to your (presumably much older) parents when they get sick? Death is a very real outcome there - what happens when you have a car crash and need intensive care but all hospital beds are full and there are also younger patients than you to treat with a better outcome? You’re triaged lower priority and may not get the care you’d normally get or survive at all For perspective, there really aren’t that many ICU hospital beds altogether because the usual number of people who need intensive care at any given point in a city of millions is in the hundreds (maybe low thousand?) Once the exponential nature of the epidemics hits and there are thousands of people who need care right now on top of the usual load, then it’s like in Italy where some are left to die just because choices must be made and there are either healthier victims with better prognosis.
- travisporter 7y ago
  Really appreciate you posting such a rational and reasoned reply.

hatenberg 7y ago

This talk at the start of an exponential curve is exactly the problem

spookthesunset 7y ago
I wonder how many people are fitting the “how many people are tested” to the same exponential curve? If there is exponential growth in the number of tests given, it follows there would be an exponential growth in number of cases detected.
- jsight 7y ago
  That is absolutely true, which is one of the reasons that it is surprising that the curve isn't any higher than it is.

ornornor 7y ago

The problem is that so many people are ill or die within a very very short window instead of being spread out as it is before the epidemic. From a purely selfish point of view, assuming the disease will be a minor inconvenience to you because you’re young and healthy, there are other things to consider: - what happens to your (presumably much older) parents when they get sick? Death is a very real outcome there - what happens when you have a car crash and need intensive care but all hospital beds are full and there are also younger patients than you to treat with a better outcome? You’re triaged lower priority and may not get the care you’d normally get or survive at all For perspective, there really aren’t that many ICU hospital beds altogether because the usual number of people who need intensive care at any given point in a city of millions is in the hundreds (maybe low thousand?) Once the exponential nature of the epidemics hits and there are thousands of people who need care right now on top of the usual load, then it’s like in Italy where some are left to die just because choices must be made and there are either healthier victims with better prognosis.

travisporter 7y ago
Really appreciate you posting such a rational and reasoned reply.