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> Actually, I was talking about something more like individual American companies & China vs. the United States. > [...] > The idea is that American companies
by DiogenesKynikos 7y ago
> Actually, I was talking about something more like individual American companies & China vs. the United States.
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> The idea is that American companies making profit selling Chinese-made goods to Chinese and Americans may not actually a very good deal for the United States.
What it sounds like you're upset about is actually the growth of international trade and deindustrialization in the US. You're putting it in crude and xenophobic terms: China taking advantage of the US.
American workers who have lost their jobs or who saw their wages decrease certainly were taken advantage of. It wasn't by the Chinese, or the Japanese, who were the bogeyman in the 1980s. It was by an impersonal and ubiquitous economic system. It's much easier to direct your hatred towards a specific, tangible enemy, however, which is why the xenophobic answer is so popular. Just point the finger at the foreign workers earning their pennies an hour, rather than understanding the broader economic forces at work.
- ardy42 7y ago> What it sounds like you're upset about is actually the growth of international trade and deindustrialization in the US. You're putting it in crude and xenophobic terms: China taking advantage of the US. Actually, what it sounds like is that I was correcting you on on oversimple model you were using to make the point to another poster that everything is peachy. Throwing around terms like "upset" and "xenophobic" is not a good way to have a productive conversation. > It was by an impersonal and ubiquitous economic system. "Impersonal an ubiquitous economic systems" have no agency, btw. The system didn't do anything. Just point the finger at the foreign workers earning their pennies an hour Yet another actor that's missing from your model is CCP policy makers.