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This isn't the first time the topic of browser monoculture has been brought up. Why does it matter that it was Pale Moon that brought it up this time? If I or a
by jolmg 7y ago
This isn't the first time the topic of browser monoculture has been brought up. Why does it matter that it was Pale Moon that brought it up this time? If I or anyone else would have written the post instead of them, would then people focus on the issue instead of on who brought it up?
> It takes away from the point when it's untrue
What exactly are you saying is untrue? Can you quote the part?
There are comments[1] right in this same thread that confirm Pale Moon's statements about the inability to save or archive pages.
> Web Components is a standard. Multiple implementations exist.
Are you sure it's not Google that's controlling what's to become "standard" and Firefox that chases after them? And I say Firefox specifically, because, besides Safari, they seem to be the only other implementation on the market. Edge uses Chrome's engine. Indeed, with Chrome's 64% in market share[2], anything they do becomes "standard" automatically. With Firefox's 4.5%, I don't think they can do anything but chase after the Chrome guys to wherever they decide to take the web.
Isn't the point of a standard to help foster a rich ecosystem of diverse, interoperable implementations? I feel that a standard that evolves too fast (as made possible by an implementation monoculture) fails at fostering one.
This is what I believe Pale Moon is getting at when they say:
> The more additional "features" are tacked on to these components, the less likely it is for non-Google clients to be able to display sites in full or properly.
It gets harder and harder to make a new web engine from scratch. It's a step backwards from gaining a more diverse browser ecosystem.
The fact that Web Components specifically makes it harder to parse content (for archival or indexing purposes, etc.) is a separate issue, and for it, it doesn't matter if it's standard. In fact, it makes it worse.
[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22605069 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22605069
[2] https://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share https://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share