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Many of the known Canadian cases have come from the US. Personally I think the border should have closed immediately after the PM’s press conference on Monday.

briandear 7y ago
And yet just a month ago, travel bans were opposed because they apparently didn’t work. https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-canadas-decision-against-travel-bans-tied-to-coronavirus-backed-by/ https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-canadas-decis... And Biden called such bans Xenophobic.. until apparently they weren’t. Fascinating how quickly we forget. https://nationalfile.com/flashback-biden-opposed-trumps-chinese-coronavirus-travel-ban-as-xenophobia/ https://nationalfile.com/flashback-biden-opposed-trumps-chin...
- brailsafe 7y ago
  Fascinating how quickly Biden forgets...
  - jessaustin 7y ago
    It's fascinating to us, but somehow no journalist has noticed the phenomenon.
  - Retric 7y ago
    From a pandemic standpoint travelers tend to go to the same places as other travelers. Further, people are generally going to avoid known hotspots but unknown hotspots represent the great risk for spreading as people don’t realize what’s going on until much later. At the extreme, carefully returning people with known infections was a minimal risk due to the preventive measures taken. Net result most Americans that got the virus from a foreign country got it outside of China. Completely closing the borders and or adding a 14 day quarantine for new arrivals would have helped. Just banning travel to China was mostly pointless.
- ForHackernews 7y ago
  I think it's still very much an open question whether these bans will have any effect. And I guess we'll see how Americans feel about being on the receiving end of the xenophobia. I saw a lot of argle-bargle when a Norwegian university highlighted the obvious truth of the US's vulnerable infrastructure https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/coronavirus-norway-university-us-ntnu-health-insurance-latest-a9404866.html https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/coronavirus-norway-...
- __s 7y ago
  The confusion with the EU travel bans was that it seemed somewhat arbitrary, allowing UK etc. It was also announced somewhat ambiguously, where some people thought it included shutting down cargo shipments This border closure is also different in that both sides have negotiated a mutual agreement That said, yes, we should realize how much perspectives are shifting with each passing week. Ideally we'd try learn from Europe's hindsight rather than blame their rate of infection on greeting rituals

briandear 7y ago

And yet just a month ago, travel bans were opposed because they apparently didn’t work. https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-canadas-decision-against-travel-bans-tied-to-coronavirus-backed-by/ https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-canadas-decis... And Biden called such bans Xenophobic.. until apparently they weren’t. Fascinating how quickly we forget. https://nationalfile.com/flashback-biden-opposed-trumps-chinese-coronavirus-travel-ban-as-xenophobia/ https://nationalfile.com/flashback-biden-opposed-trumps-chin...

brailsafe 7y ago
Fascinating how quickly Biden forgets...
- jessaustin 7y ago
  It's fascinating to us, but somehow no journalist has noticed the phenomenon.
- Retric 7y ago
  From a pandemic standpoint travelers tend to go to the same places as other travelers. Further, people are generally going to avoid known hotspots but unknown hotspots represent the great risk for spreading as people don’t realize what’s going on until much later. At the extreme, carefully returning people with known infections was a minimal risk due to the preventive measures taken. Net result most Americans that got the virus from a foreign country got it outside of China. Completely closing the borders and or adding a 14 day quarantine for new arrivals would have helped. Just banning travel to China was mostly pointless.
ForHackernews 7y ago
I think it's still very much an open question whether these bans will have any effect. And I guess we'll see how Americans feel about being on the receiving end of the xenophobia. I saw a lot of argle-bargle when a Norwegian university highlighted the obvious truth of the US's vulnerable infrastructure https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/coronavirus-norway-university-us-ntnu-health-insurance-latest-a9404866.html https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/coronavirus-norway-...
__s 7y ago
The confusion with the EU travel bans was that it seemed somewhat arbitrary, allowing UK etc. It was also announced somewhat ambiguously, where some people thought it included shutting down cargo shipments This border closure is also different in that both sides have negotiated a mutual agreement That said, yes, we should realize how much perspectives are shifting with each passing week. Ideally we'd try learn from Europe's hindsight rather than blame their rate of infection on greeting rituals