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Personally, I think the only way we will retake our privacy is when hobby level, readily available hardware, software, and 3d printable parts enable hobbyists t

Personally, I think the only way we will retake our privacy is when hobby level, readily available hardware, software, and 3d printable parts enable hobbyists to create “good enough” phones with encryption and privacy options that won’t exist in mass market phones. Then an enterprising startup can deliver marked-up, preassembled devices, then people might have privacy again.

saurik 7y ago
The goalposts on "good enough" keep moving. When everyone else has a holographic direct-to-eye refraction display, people are going to be as disappointed in a 2020-level smartphone as people were with OpenMoko devices, which still had a pressure-sensitive touch screen with a plastic stylus when the iPhone has just come out with its relatively massive capacitive multitouch display.
- toast0 7y ago
  I was disappointed with the OpenMoko for many reasons, but the screen wasn't one. Things like it wouldn't read my sim (bug 666), the stylus was almost required, but there was no place to put it, audio issues, sleep/wake issues, poor battery indication and tricky to charge from a flat battery. Sure, the screen was kind of small, but the resolution was high, so you could claim hidpi before Apple invented it?
- wideasleep1 7y ago
  Depends...'good enough' goalposts are for a particular audience. Technophobes seeking privacy are certainly less motivated to upgrade to a holographic direct-to-eye display, than a technophile.
MaxBarraclough 7y ago
You can already buy a Blackphone. Almost no-one does. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackphone https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackphone
zajio1am 7y ago
You would still have position data based on triangulation from signal level / latency for different BTSes.
r3ll 7y ago
Personally, I like the idea of a Fairphone with Lineage/MicroG. I say like the idea of as opposed to use as currently Fairphone is out of my budget and I can't find a phone in my budget range that's supported by Lineage/MicroG so I just have somewhat reliable <£100 phone with as much de-googling as I can while still having normal android.. (Not much) Edit: the bonus of phones in this price range is like Fairphones they almost always make it easy to quickly remove the battery so you're certain nothing's running.

saurik 7y ago

The goalposts on "good enough" keep moving. When everyone else has a holographic direct-to-eye refraction display, people are going to be as disappointed in a 2020-level smartphone as people were with OpenMoko devices, which still had a pressure-sensitive touch screen with a plastic stylus when the iPhone has just come out with its relatively massive capacitive multitouch display.

toast0 7y ago
I was disappointed with the OpenMoko for many reasons, but the screen wasn't one. Things like it wouldn't read my sim (bug 666), the stylus was almost required, but there was no place to put it, audio issues, sleep/wake issues, poor battery indication and tricky to charge from a flat battery. Sure, the screen was kind of small, but the resolution was high, so you could claim hidpi before Apple invented it?
wideasleep1 7y ago
Depends...'good enough' goalposts are for a particular audience. Technophobes seeking privacy are certainly less motivated to upgrade to a holographic direct-to-eye display, than a technophile.

MaxBarraclough 7y ago

You can already buy a Blackphone. Almost no-one does. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackphone https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackphone

zajio1am 7y ago

You would still have position data based on triangulation from signal level / latency for different BTSes.

r3ll 7y ago

Personally, I like the idea of a Fairphone with Lineage/MicroG. I say like the idea of as opposed to use as currently Fairphone is out of my budget and I can't find a phone in my budget range that's supported by Lineage/MicroG so I just have somewhat reliable <£100 phone with as much de-googling as I can while still having normal android.. (Not much) Edit: the bonus of phones in this price range is like Fairphones they almost always make it easy to quickly remove the battery so you're certain nothing's running.