Agreed, and I too expected better from the HN crowd. Also agreed the moderators here are doing a great job. I don't know what the solution is. Maybe we should

Agreed, and I too expected better from the HN crowd. Also agreed the moderators here are doing a great job. I don't know what the solution is. Maybe we should all strive to understand the other side better instead of casting quick judgement. Environmental and other issues aside, perhaps this is one of the benefits of the recent increase (not counting the current issue with COVID19) of global travel and tourism.