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Yes, it's just like that and it's ugly. There is also plenty has been done on the other side of Pacific Ocean. And now, reading through the thread it's clear ho
by wangii 7y ago
Yes, it's just like that and it's ugly. There is also plenty has been done on the other side of Pacific Ocean. And now, reading through the thread it's clear how much we hate each other. Or fear?
At the beginning of the trade war, one of my fav NYT columnist remarked Trump was the opponent Chinese deserved, despite being pretty anti-Trump in all other regards, and had being promoted globalization for decades.
Last week, there has been a surge of articles on the Chinese websphere, describing how impotent the western authorities were when dealing with COVID-19, implied superiority of the system/culture. However, in spite of the height of nationalism, there were articles in Chinese mainstream called for respect and understanding, and they would probably never be reported anywhere in the west, after all, not news-worthy.
I thought COVID-19 would have brought us closer to deal with the unknown in front of all of us. We blew it. welcome to the era of 2nd cold war, if we are lucky enough.
- baq 7y agoThere are egos at the top of every superpower which don’t see themselves as equal to mostly anyone. As long as that’s the case, there will be a Cold War or something similar.
- magicsmoke 7y agoYou might wonder if the path to leadership is especially enticing to people with overinflated egos that enjoy the high they get from ordering others around.
- lowdose 7y agoTop of the piramide is for narcissists, some just have learned better to play the sympathetic character. Since recent the most efficient modus is to not be bothered by that thin layer of veneer.
- aguyfromnb 7y ago>We blew it. What did we "blow" by not appeasing governments that do things like this? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinjiang_re-education_camps https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinjiang_re-education_camps I really don't understand how things like this are acceptable for the sake of commerce. We should expect more of our allies and partners.
- wangii 7y agoI could list plenty done by US govt deem not acceptable, from meddling with our Civil War. But what's the point? By claiming moral high ground the argument goes nowhere. the question really is, do we fear/hate each other more than we need each other?
- aguyfromnb 7y ago>But what's the point? By claiming moral high ground the argument goes nowhere. The point is that, apparently, you think "meddling in a Civil War" and harvesting organs from prisoners are morally equivalent. I'm not even sure what to say about that. I can tolerate some inter-nation sabre-rattling, spying, hacking, propaganda, election meddling, maybe even the odd annexation or assassination. Although they are not necessarily things I would approve of, I consider them politics. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organ_harvesting_from_Falun_Gong_practitioners_in_China https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organ_harvesting_from_Falun_Go...