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Slightly off-topic complaint: I really wish these features weren't considered "Enterprise" by so many people. Do you have a company that uses third party tools

by mdeeks 7y ago

Slightly off-topic complaint: I really wish these features weren't considered "Enterprise" by so many people. Do you have a company that uses third party tools and has employees that leave? Congrats, you're an "enterprise" and need the "enterprise" plan. I dream of the day that these features (SSO, Sync/SCIM, auditing) are considered table stakes. I hope WorkOS takes off and drives that. P.S. RIP Nylus

xellisx 7y ago
I wish people would stop using 'OS' when naming things, when it's not an Operating System.
- grinich 7y ago
  So there used to be a platform that gave you all the things you needed to build an app... It handled stuff like authentication, user management, provisioning, security, compliance, etc. It had a fantastic developer experience and was beloved by developers and at the same time loved by IT. It allowed developers to focus exclusively on product features, and it seamlessly took care of administrative needs of corporate IT. It was called Microsoft Windows. :) But in today's era, everything has moved to the cloud and that's made the situation fragmented. There's over a dozen IdP and even more directory systems and logging systems. There's no source of truth! In order to build an app for enterprise, you have to write all of this boilerplate integration code. And right now every company does it themselves in-house. The goal for WorkOS is to handle all the complicated undifferentiated complexity that every workplace app needs. It runs "under the hood" and lets you focus on building unique product features. It's a standard set of interfaces and features shared across applications. That's the role of the operating system and that's why we call it an OS. :)
realityking 7y ago
I used to share that sentiment but now having worked on the other side and been involved in too many pricing discussion, segmenting is _hard_. Generous free and credit card plans are often subsidized by enterprise contracts and you gotta have some features to make people want to pay for those enterprise plans. SSO/SCIM/Audit logs are great for that because big companies _really_ care while most SMBs don‘t have an IdP and SME are usually fine forgoing it if they can save a buck or two.
gramakri 7y ago
> P.S. RIP Nylus You mean Nylas?
- mdeeks 7y ago
  Yes :) sorry. I used to work for Acompli (now Outlook Mobile) and we hated when people spelled it Accompli. Now I’m that guy
cercatrova 7y ago
So make all of these features paid then?

by mdeeks 7y ago

xellisx 7y ago

I wish people would stop using 'OS' when naming things, when it's not an Operating System.

grinich 7y ago
So there used to be a platform that gave you all the things you needed to build an app... It handled stuff like authentication, user management, provisioning, security, compliance, etc. It had a fantastic developer experience and was beloved by developers and at the same time loved by IT. It allowed developers to focus exclusively on product features, and it seamlessly took care of administrative needs of corporate IT. It was called Microsoft Windows. :) But in today's era, everything has moved to the cloud and that's made the situation fragmented. There's over a dozen IdP and even more directory systems and logging systems. There's no source of truth! In order to build an app for enterprise, you have to write all of this boilerplate integration code. And right now every company does it themselves in-house. The goal for WorkOS is to handle all the complicated undifferentiated complexity that every workplace app needs. It runs "under the hood" and lets you focus on building unique product features. It's a standard set of interfaces and features shared across applications. That's the role of the operating system and that's why we call it an OS. :)

realityking 7y ago

I used to share that sentiment but now having worked on the other side and been involved in too many pricing discussion, segmenting is _hard_. Generous free and credit card plans are often subsidized by enterprise contracts and you gotta have some features to make people want to pay for those enterprise plans. SSO/SCIM/Audit logs are great for that because big companies _really_ care while most SMBs don‘t have an IdP and SME are usually fine forgoing it if they can save a buck or two.

gramakri 7y ago

> P.S. RIP Nylus You mean Nylas?

mdeeks 7y ago
Yes :) sorry. I used to work for Acompli (now Outlook Mobile) and we hated when people spelled it Accompli. Now I’m that guy

cercatrova 7y ago

So make all of these features paid then?