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> Microsoft Teams (Microsofts's surprisingly better clone of Slack) Personal experience, but I have not found a single person who likes MS Teams. Usually peopl

> Microsoft Teams (Microsofts's surprisingly better clone of Slack) Personal experience, but I have not found a single person who likes MS Teams. Usually people around me say that Slack is ok-ish, while MS Teams is crap.

graphememes 7y ago
I actually enjoy it, more than slack.
atraac 7y ago
Agree, Teams is an absolute shitshow of a communicator. Everything's wrong about it, from unintuitive UX, incredibly slow UI, up to terrible API design where even making a simple bot is laughably hard(try working with 'chats' instead of 'teams' or 'channels' and you'll see). Recent days also proved how bad infrastructure they have, they're not capable at handling bigger traffic at all. I've used Slack equally long before that and it was amazingly good in comparison(still not perfect though).
- kuraudoOishii 7y ago
  I'll tell you one thing it does better: audio/video conferencing. We went full WFH and the usual suspects couldn't support us, but we discovered that teams is a thing we pay for and operates like a champ, haha.
gtyras2mrs 7y ago
While Teams isn't as good as Slack IMO, it is better than the experience of using Skype (Lync) For Business by a country mile. I've the misfortune of being forced to use Skype and I would kill to have it replaced with Teams at my workplace.
- Galanwe 7y ago
  Skype for Business is not Skype. It's just a rebranding of Lync that happened after Skype acquisition. There is a half-baked link between Skype and Lync to make it seem like it's the same product. This link is all shitty mainly because Lync and Skype work completely differently, and even simple things like call signaling have to deal with years of legacy Microsoft SIP extensions that were punched into Lync. I remember the first time we received access to the Lync code repository. That stuff was a multi-GB (!!!) repository that contained files, promo videos, PDFs, code, etc. That tells you much about the development practices behind Lync.
  - shifto 7y ago
    I still run a Lync Server 2010 at home to chat with my wife using a MSN looking messenger. We used to chat a lot using MSN messenger and this is a way to hold onto it. I don't mind Lync at all!
cocoa19 7y ago
You haven't suffered worse tools. Have you ever heard of Lotus Notes / Lotus Sametime? It's not great, but in the corporate space, Teams does an OK job, and MS is a reputable company for B2B.
- legooolas 7y ago
  "Better than Lotus Notes" is not a high bar.

graphememes 7y ago

I actually enjoy it, more than slack.

atraac 7y ago

Agree, Teams is an absolute shitshow of a communicator. Everything's wrong about it, from unintuitive UX, incredibly slow UI, up to terrible API design where even making a simple bot is laughably hard(try working with 'chats' instead of 'teams' or 'channels' and you'll see). Recent days also proved how bad infrastructure they have, they're not capable at handling bigger traffic at all. I've used Slack equally long before that and it was amazingly good in comparison(still not perfect though).

kuraudoOishii 7y ago
I'll tell you one thing it does better: audio/video conferencing. We went full WFH and the usual suspects couldn't support us, but we discovered that teams is a thing we pay for and operates like a champ, haha.

gtyras2mrs 7y ago

While Teams isn't as good as Slack IMO, it is better than the experience of using Skype (Lync) For Business by a country mile. I've the misfortune of being forced to use Skype and I would kill to have it replaced with Teams at my workplace.

Galanwe 7y ago
Skype for Business is not Skype. It's just a rebranding of Lync that happened after Skype acquisition. There is a half-baked link between Skype and Lync to make it seem like it's the same product. This link is all shitty mainly because Lync and Skype work completely differently, and even simple things like call signaling have to deal with years of legacy Microsoft SIP extensions that were punched into Lync. I remember the first time we received access to the Lync code repository. That stuff was a multi-GB (!!!) repository that contained files, promo videos, PDFs, code, etc. That tells you much about the development practices behind Lync.
- shifto 7y ago
  I still run a Lync Server 2010 at home to chat with my wife using a MSN looking messenger. We used to chat a lot using MSN messenger and this is a way to hold onto it. I don't mind Lync at all!

cocoa19 7y ago

You haven't suffered worse tools. Have you ever heard of Lotus Notes / Lotus Sametime? It's not great, but in the corporate space, Teams does an OK job, and MS is a reputable company for B2B.

legooolas 7y ago
"Better than Lotus Notes" is not a high bar.