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Discussion re: if techcrunch should be banned from hn https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22539255 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22539255

Grustaf 7y ago
Is it just me or does every single TC article read like an ad?
- dsr_ 7y ago
  Perhaps the submission form should have a caution: "If this URL looks like an ad or a press release, please consider finding an original source for the information."
type0 7y ago
What is the HN policy about posting redirecting URLs to other pages in general? If there isn't one I think there should be clear rules on that. To be clear, I'm not talking about moved pages and links that change after submission.
DiabloD3 7y ago
I wonder if I say dang three times in a mirror, he will show up and take advice on HN policy changes. I really would like to see TC just gone. It didn't use to be this bad, but they've been going downhill since... forever, really.
- hinkley 7y ago
  Beetlejuice didn't so much show up and take advice as he showed up and tried stage a shotgun wedding with your underage daughter in order to exploit some sort of interdimensional green card loophole. This is suddenly very reminiscent of John Mulaney describing Back to the Future...
  - TheCraiggers 7y ago
    The whole "say someone's name 3 times in a mirror" predates Beetlejuice by a long stretch. That said, I don't know of any of the those myths that ended in happy endings for those saying the name, so I think your main point still stands. ;)
    - hinkley 7y ago
      Unless your name is Randall Munroe :) https://xkcd.com/555/ https://xkcd.com/555/
- kick 7y ago
  Just send mail with any advice you have to the address at the bottom of the site. He may not agree with you, but he's more than reasonable about responding (everything in the inbox is read), and it will do more good (and probably get you more goodwill) than campaigning for policy changes in the middle of random threads. It's also worth considering, when thinking about why it hasn't been banned, whether or not the main value from the threads (assuming the perfect source) would be from the link or the comments. For some types of submission, it's the link: personal blog updates, academic papers, interesting technical achievements, detailed research, so on. For others, it's the comments: company updates, interesting world news, most things happening in real-time, obituaries, so forth. For others still, it's tied: blog posts on historical subjects, 'Show HN:' posts, submissions about different ways of doing things than mainstream methods. Product launches, from my perspective, fall in the "Value in Comments" category. So then you have to decide whether it's worth the trade-off. By banning TechCrunch, would the site lose comment value? Looking at this one, you'd really be missing some good comments by getting rid of TechCrunch links; there are all sorts of anecdotes about the product in this thread, and there are a bunch of interesting anecdotes about competing products as well.
Animats 7y ago
"I intend to investigate this myself once I get my hands on one of the new devices." This isn't even a review. This is someone writing from the press release.

Grustaf 7y ago

Is it just me or does every single TC article read like an ad?

dsr_ 7y ago
Perhaps the submission form should have a caution: "If this URL looks like an ad or a press release, please consider finding an original source for the information."

type0 7y ago

What is the HN policy about posting redirecting URLs to other pages in general? If there isn't one I think there should be clear rules on that. To be clear, I'm not talking about moved pages and links that change after submission.

DiabloD3 7y ago

I wonder if I say dang three times in a mirror, he will show up and take advice on HN policy changes. I really would like to see TC just gone. It didn't use to be this bad, but they've been going downhill since... forever, really.

hinkley 7y ago
Beetlejuice didn't so much show up and take advice as he showed up and tried stage a shotgun wedding with your underage daughter in order to exploit some sort of interdimensional green card loophole. This is suddenly very reminiscent of John Mulaney describing Back to the Future...
- TheCraiggers 7y ago
  The whole "say someone's name 3 times in a mirror" predates Beetlejuice by a long stretch. That said, I don't know of any of the those myths that ended in happy endings for those saying the name, so I think your main point still stands. ;)
  - hinkley 7y ago
    Unless your name is Randall Munroe :) https://xkcd.com/555/ https://xkcd.com/555/
kick 7y ago
Just send mail with any advice you have to the address at the bottom of the site. He may not agree with you, but he's more than reasonable about responding (everything in the inbox is read), and it will do more good (and probably get you more goodwill) than campaigning for policy changes in the middle of random threads. It's also worth considering, when thinking about why it hasn't been banned, whether or not the main value from the threads (assuming the perfect source) would be from the link or the comments. For some types of submission, it's the link: personal blog updates, academic papers, interesting technical achievements, detailed research, so on. For others, it's the comments: company updates, interesting world news, most things happening in real-time, obituaries, so forth. For others still, it's tied: blog posts on historical subjects, 'Show HN:' posts, submissions about different ways of doing things than mainstream methods. Product launches, from my perspective, fall in the "Value in Comments" category. So then you have to decide whether it's worth the trade-off. By banning TechCrunch, would the site lose comment value? Looking at this one, you'd really be missing some good comments by getting rid of TechCrunch links; there are all sorts of anecdotes about the product in this thread, and there are a bunch of interesting anecdotes about competing products as well.

Animats 7y ago

"I intend to investigate this myself once I get my hands on one of the new devices." This isn't even a review. This is someone writing from the press release.