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To be fair, western authorities had an even longer amount of time before the virus spread to their countries, and are doing about as well or slightly worse than

To be fair, western authorities had an even longer amount of time before the virus spread to their countries, and are doing about as well or slightly worse than the Chinese authorities did even given this initial suppression.

gvjddbnvdrbv 7y ago
We are doing far worse.
- spookthesunset 7y ago
  In what way? You do realize that taking dramatic measures “just to be safe” has severe consequences of its own right? Our supply chain will break down. People will kill them selves from this lockdown. Addicts will relapse. People will fall into depression. Nothing good. It is a very tight space to thread the needle—- overreact and do massive damage to our economy and physical and mental health. Too little and we overwhelm our medical system and more people die from the virus needlessly. It is very delicate balance. Add in 27/7 media of all forms plus intense political pressure to “do something!!!! “ and here we are. I don’t envy anybody in my regional government having to make this call. Ps: people downvoting this and other comments like it make my point. It is currently not okay to question our current actions. There is massive social and political pressure to move toward heavy handed measures... we should be allowed to be critical or question things. Groupthink is not a good thing.
  - jfkebwjsbx 7y ago
    So now it is groupthink? Curious. I was being downvoted to hell a month ago when I was telling people we should enable measures. You can definitely do things like: • stop all tourist and non-essential travel, giving airlines the option to freeze their accounts • enable work from home for all public employees • force private companies to do so too for jobs that can be • close all educational institutions and let them give lessons remotely if they want • ban non-work related gatherings • ramp up production of masks and other basic stuff • ban people from buying too much of 1 given item per day for even 1 year if necessary, without destroying the economy. That alone would have flattened the curve so much it is not even funny.
    - spookthesunset 7y ago
      You cannot do half those things for a year without radically changing our economy. Just as an example, saying “no tourist travel” itself would destroy a ton of regions who depend on tourism. It is easy to armchair quarterback how you’d deal with something like this. Especially when you can wave away “trivialities“ like “ban all non work related gatherings for a year”. LOL. Good luck with that. Your cure is worse than the virus my friend.
      - jfkebwjsbx 7y ago
        Of course the economy would suffer a lot, but comparing it to having a pandemic with a million deaths and breaking the already stretched health system... it is a win.
  - gvjddbnvdrbv 7y ago
    Exponential growth with 6 hidden doublings is nasty stuff. Far more will die from the virus than the measures already. It take about a month from exposure to death. There are 1000s to 10s of 1000s 'walking dead' in the UK alone.
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- dragonelite 7y ago
  This i just saw a clip of a few days ago about my Minister of Health being in a debate with the bigger opposition party leader. He asked the minister if he was familiar with how Singapore, South Korea, Taiwan are handling the corona situation. And he was not informed about those nations approach to their local epidemic. He rather look in countries within Europe, instead of nations that have been where we are going too.
  - gvjddbnvdrbv 7y ago
    Those countries have never been where we are going. They handled this way earlier in their outbreaks.

gvjddbnvdrbv 7y ago

We are doing far worse.

spookthesunset 7y ago
In what way? You do realize that taking dramatic measures “just to be safe” has severe consequences of its own right? Our supply chain will break down. People will kill them selves from this lockdown. Addicts will relapse. People will fall into depression. Nothing good. It is a very tight space to thread the needle—- overreact and do massive damage to our economy and physical and mental health. Too little and we overwhelm our medical system and more people die from the virus needlessly. It is very delicate balance. Add in 27/7 media of all forms plus intense political pressure to “do something!!!! “ and here we are. I don’t envy anybody in my regional government having to make this call. Ps: people downvoting this and other comments like it make my point. It is currently not okay to question our current actions. There is massive social and political pressure to move toward heavy handed measures... we should be allowed to be critical or question things. Groupthink is not a good thing.
- jfkebwjsbx 7y ago
  So now it is groupthink? Curious. I was being downvoted to hell a month ago when I was telling people we should enable measures. You can definitely do things like: • stop all tourist and non-essential travel, giving airlines the option to freeze their accounts • enable work from home for all public employees • force private companies to do so too for jobs that can be • close all educational institutions and let them give lessons remotely if they want • ban non-work related gatherings • ramp up production of masks and other basic stuff • ban people from buying too much of 1 given item per day for even 1 year if necessary, without destroying the economy. That alone would have flattened the curve so much it is not even funny.
  - spookthesunset 7y ago
    You cannot do half those things for a year without radically changing our economy. Just as an example, saying “no tourist travel” itself would destroy a ton of regions who depend on tourism. It is easy to armchair quarterback how you’d deal with something like this. Especially when you can wave away “trivialities“ like “ban all non work related gatherings for a year”. LOL. Good luck with that. Your cure is worse than the virus my friend.
    - jfkebwjsbx 7y ago
      Of course the economy would suffer a lot, but comparing it to having a pandemic with a million deaths and breaking the already stretched health system... it is a win.
- gvjddbnvdrbv 7y ago
  Exponential growth with 6 hidden doublings is nasty stuff. Far more will die from the virus than the measures already. It take about a month from exposure to death. There are 1000s to 10s of 1000s 'walking dead' in the UK alone.
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dragonelite 7y ago
This i just saw a clip of a few days ago about my Minister of Health being in a debate with the bigger opposition party leader. He asked the minister if he was familiar with how Singapore, South Korea, Taiwan are handling the corona situation. And he was not informed about those nations approach to their local epidemic. He rather look in countries within Europe, instead of nations that have been where we are going too.
- gvjddbnvdrbv 7y ago
  Those countries have never been where we are going. They handled this way earlier in their outbreaks.