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"in a 90 to 120 day period", and "Ventec is a fairly small player". A five-fold increase in production of a company that's not making many ventilators to start
by makomk 7y ago
"in a 90 to 120 day period", and "Ventec is a fairly small player". A five-fold increase in production of a company that's not making many ventilators to start with, in 3-4 months, isn't going to do a whole lot even before you get into the problem of finding the staff to actually run the things correctly and not kill the patients.
- woofie11 7y agoIt will solve one part of the equation. We can figure out the other parts in the 90-120 timeframe.
- ben_w 7y agoI think the point is you don’t have 90-120 days, you have 15-30. I mean, don’t get me wrong, everything you can do is going to be another life saved – it’s just that that is because everything we can do is still not going to be enough to save everyone.
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- zerkten 7y agoYou are still going to need these in 90-120 days. There is the potential for a horrible situation soon, but that doesn't mean they shouldn't make an effort. I would only argue against, if the effort was somehow detrimental to the next 15-30 days.
- gvjddbnvdrbv 7y agoAll social contact has a cost.
- woofie11 7y agoProjecting out, we'll be overrun in 15-30, but we'll still be overrun in 90-120.
- rectang 7y agoIf you have hundreds of thousands more people infected than you have ventilators, every ventilator you add is a potential life saved. As for adding staff, now is also the time to be thinking about how to ramp that up.
- beamatronic 7y agoConvention centers and empty hotels, they should be getting proactively turned into field hospitals very soon.
- jasondigitized 7y agohttp://www.deadmalls.com/ http://www.deadmalls.com/
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- leggomylibro 7y agoBut not even China has 100,000 people infected, and their rate of new infections is slowing down. Italy still has <30,000 cases. And in both cases, the number of people requiring ventilators is obviously much lower. Where are you getting this "hundreds of thousands more people infected than you have ventilators" idea? We've already had a couple months of the virus spreading at this point, maybe it's time to start making more realistic estimates?
- ceejayoz 7y agoChina took aggressive and far earlier steps to contain spread. We're far behind on mitigation, and we should expect a much larger spike in cases.
- Silhouette 7y agoThings might be slowed down while quarantines are in force. The big question at the moment is what happens when those quarantines become unsustainable if, as seems very likely, we don't yet have mass vaccinations available.
- batmansmk 7y agoDon't engineers solve one problem at a time? Training people to use ventilaors in 3 months seems doable to say the least. We use the bootcamps playbook. And I like the idea to be ready for the next crisis, which will eventually come. In California, we have earthquake proof buildings, it would be sensible to have pandemic proof medical equipment.
- gvjddbnvdrbv 7y agoWe don't have 3 months we have less than 3 weeks. Plug the deaths and doubling time into the formula for exponential growth.
- pharke 7y agoWe've got until mid May, then time's up.
- jobseeker990 7y agoHow about you provide some other ideas instead of poo pooing this?
- vilhelm_s 7y agoOne possible scenario is that the pandemic dies down when the weather gets warmer and then comes back for a second wave in fall. (Several historical flu pandemics behaved like that.) Should that turn out to be the case, it would still be useful to build up a stockpile of ventilators to use 6 months from now.