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Border Force staff are being (asked/forced) to work overtime specified in their contracts. Why are we so quick to hate on Amazon, who actually deliver things th

Border Force staff are being (asked/forced) to work overtime specified in their contracts. Why are we so quick to hate on Amazon, who actually deliver things that we're going to need?

newprint 7y ago
Did it specify that there is a contagious deadly virus going around and people should be going no contact ? I Bet, it didn't.
- TulliusCicero 7y ago
  So do you think grocery stores should just shut down? What about their workers, or the workers at their warehouses/logistics companies?
Hokusai 7y ago
> Why are we so quick to hate on Amazon, who actually deliver things that we're going to need? Because Amazon is using desperate people to sign abusive contracts and then make them work risking their lives and loved ones to increase an already huge profit. > who actually deliver things that we're going to need? This post is full of this propaganda from Amazon. Who said that they are delivering first necessity items? Who said that it is better to have one person touching thousands of packages and sending to people's homes is a good idea? Amazon is nos just being a bad player in the job market but also it is damaging the much needed rational on-line debate. Please, keep yourself safe and help society by staying home when asked by the authorities. It is not just about you, but also others.
- TulliusCicero 7y ago
  > Who said that it is better to have one person touching thousands of packages and sending to people's homes is a good idea? A small number of interacting people + most people hiding at home, is WAY better than having everyone still going out there.
- Turing_Machine 7y ago
  Amazon warehouse employment is at will. There is no "abusive contract" that "desperate people" are being forced to "sign". I've noticed that the stories on the dark satanic mills of Amazon's warehouses never bother to show us how wonderful the conditions are in Barnes & Noble warehouses by comparison. Why is that?
- beaker52 7y ago
  Should we keep doctors out of their places of work too? Or is their life worth risking? What about the police? What about people who keep electricity/water/communication services running? What about food and goods manufacturers? What about people who deliver that food and those goods? Want to talk rational? People are going to need things. How can you just expect _the_ most significant supply chain actor in the world to _stop_ functioning when supply is going to become vastly important? It's so, so trendy to hate Amazon these days. And I do keep myself and society safe. I am staying home, before the authorities even asked. But if I was part of an essential supply chain, I'd be going to work. Because supply chains are important, especially when there's a virus going round, putting pressure on supply. I've even volunteered to deliver groceries at unsociable hours for an online grocery store, just to make sure that people get things like food in these difficult times. Apparently telling people to stay home is the new social bandwagon of (dis)approval.
Turing_Machine 7y ago
Because AMAZON BAD in precisely the same way that ORANGE MAN BAD (and for the same fundamental reason) If they were cutting hours, the spin would be "Amazon throws helpless workers on the street".

Border Force staff are being (asked/forced) to work overtime specified in their contracts. Why are we so quick to hate on Amazon, who actually deliver things that we're going to need?

newprint 7y ago

Did it specify that there is a contagious deadly virus going around and people should be going no contact ? I Bet, it didn't.

TulliusCicero 7y ago
So do you think grocery stores should just shut down? What about their workers, or the workers at their warehouses/logistics companies?

Hokusai 7y ago

> Why are we so quick to hate on Amazon, who actually deliver things that we're going to need? Because Amazon is using desperate people to sign abusive contracts and then make them work risking their lives and loved ones to increase an already huge profit. > who actually deliver things that we're going to need? This post is full of this propaganda from Amazon. Who said that they are delivering first necessity items? Who said that it is better to have one person touching thousands of packages and sending to people's homes is a good idea? Amazon is nos just being a bad player in the job market but also it is damaging the much needed rational on-line debate. Please, keep yourself safe and help society by staying home when asked by the authorities. It is not just about you, but also others.

TulliusCicero 7y ago
> Who said that it is better to have one person touching thousands of packages and sending to people's homes is a good idea? A small number of interacting people + most people hiding at home, is WAY better than having everyone still going out there.
Turing_Machine 7y ago
Amazon warehouse employment is at will. There is no "abusive contract" that "desperate people" are being forced to "sign". I've noticed that the stories on the dark satanic mills of Amazon's warehouses never bother to show us how wonderful the conditions are in Barnes & Noble warehouses by comparison. Why is that?
beaker52 7y ago
Should we keep doctors out of their places of work too? Or is their life worth risking? What about the police? What about people who keep electricity/water/communication services running? What about food and goods manufacturers? What about people who deliver that food and those goods? Want to talk rational? People are going to need things. How can you just expect _the_ most significant supply chain actor in the world to _stop_ functioning when supply is going to become vastly important? It's so, so trendy to hate Amazon these days. And I do keep myself and society safe. I am staying home, before the authorities even asked. But if I was part of an essential supply chain, I'd be going to work. Because supply chains are important, especially when there's a virus going round, putting pressure on supply. I've even volunteered to deliver groceries at unsociable hours for an online grocery store, just to make sure that people get things like food in these difficult times. Apparently telling people to stay home is the new social bandwagon of (dis)approval.

Turing_Machine 7y ago

Because AMAZON BAD in precisely the same way that ORANGE MAN BAD (and for the same fundamental reason) If they were cutting hours, the spin would be "Amazon throws helpless workers on the street".