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So Anandtech has this to say about Thunderbolt 3 support: "Display support for the CPUs allows for two 4K monitors through DisplayPort over Type-C, an addition

So Anandtech has this to say about Thunderbolt 3 support: "Display support for the CPUs allows for two 4K monitors through DisplayPort over Type-C, an additional 4K monitor if Thunderbolt is used, and a fourth monitor if USB 4.0 used. AMD has designed Renoir to not need additional chips to detect which way a Type-C is connected – that is all handled on die. With the display and USB support, the processor allows for concurrent USB 3.2 and DisplayPort use, with the peak DP v1.4 8.1G HBR3 standard in play using display stream compression (DSC)." Which begs the question what does in-built mean? The Showcase Notebook Lenovo Yoga Slim 7 does not include USB 4 or Thunderbolt 3 so these modes will probably need additional chips. ...i want this 8-core chip with 32GB of LPDDR4X in a 13" Notebook that has 2 Thunderbolt 3 Ports and a matte Full-HD Touchscreen.

DiabloD3 7y ago
No, you want the next generation, for the same reason: Thunderbolt is now officially dead, it has been absorbed into the official USB4 standard. There is very unclear support for existing Thunderbolt-over-Type-C devices under USB4, and it is likely your devices will stop working. Please wait until USB4 and USB4-based solutions start shipping before you start adopting it, else you're going to be stuck with a bunch of devices that are no longer being supported, or cannot be cross-supported across Thunderbolt 3 and USB4 variants.
- Roritharr 7y ago
  I already have a bunch of TB3 Docks in our company, so ditching them would really be painful and a reason to stick to Intel.
  - DiabloD3 7y ago
    Intel's own version of their USB4 controller might not support it either. Absolutely nobody I know has been able to get a straight answer out of anyone; not Intel, not the USB IF, not other members of the USB IF, on if existing Thunderbolt 3 devices will work on USB4 hosts. And it will be a complete and absolute shitshow if it doesn't, because Type-C has swindled us into thinking Type-C is just Type-C.
  - ksec 7y ago
    Refer to my comment above.
- ksec 7y ago
  >Thunderbolt is now officially dead There is, actually Thunderbolt 4. It is in no way dead. To what extend this is different to TB3 is unclear yet. >it has been absorbed into the official USB4 standard. Not Strictly true. TB is not a mandatory part of USB 4 standard. Which means you will likely have lots of USB 4 controller without TB support. ( Cause It will be cheaper ) >There is very unclear support for existing Thunderbolt-over-Type-C devices under USB4 It will work as long as your USB4 has support and certified with TB. You will have to use a TB cable ( which you should have if you are already using it ) instead of any USB-C cable. How exactly will TB certification works without involving Intel is still unclear.

DiabloD3 7y ago

No, you want the next generation, for the same reason: Thunderbolt is now officially dead, it has been absorbed into the official USB4 standard. There is very unclear support for existing Thunderbolt-over-Type-C devices under USB4, and it is likely your devices will stop working. Please wait until USB4 and USB4-based solutions start shipping before you start adopting it, else you're going to be stuck with a bunch of devices that are no longer being supported, or cannot be cross-supported across Thunderbolt 3 and USB4 variants.

Roritharr 7y ago
I already have a bunch of TB3 Docks in our company, so ditching them would really be painful and a reason to stick to Intel.
- DiabloD3 7y ago
  Intel's own version of their USB4 controller might not support it either. Absolutely nobody I know has been able to get a straight answer out of anyone; not Intel, not the USB IF, not other members of the USB IF, on if existing Thunderbolt 3 devices will work on USB4 hosts. And it will be a complete and absolute shitshow if it doesn't, because Type-C has swindled us into thinking Type-C is just Type-C.
- ksec 7y ago
  Refer to my comment above.
ksec 7y ago
>Thunderbolt is now officially dead There is, actually Thunderbolt 4. It is in no way dead. To what extend this is different to TB3 is unclear yet. >it has been absorbed into the official USB4 standard. Not Strictly true. TB is not a mandatory part of USB 4 standard. Which means you will likely have lots of USB 4 controller without TB support. ( Cause It will be cheaper ) >There is very unclear support for existing Thunderbolt-over-Type-C devices under USB4 It will work as long as your USB4 has support and certified with TB. You will have to use a TB cable ( which you should have if you are already using it ) instead of any USB-C cable. How exactly will TB certification works without involving Intel is still unclear.