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Julian Assange Hearing – Help Wanted

73 points by leavenotracks 7y ago

bamboozled 7y ago
After only a few weeks of self-quarantine (which is nothing as I can still have most of my regular freedoms, going outside etc) its insane to think of what Julian has been put through. It's getting to the point where even a mass murder has probably suffered less than this guy has and really, for hosting documents provided by whistle-blowers ?
- jjallen 7y ago
  Really? You don’t think prison with tons of other hardcore criminals would be worse?
  - zelphirkalt 7y ago
    This is about treatment by government and in the process, not in prison from other inmates.
  - Waterluvian 7y ago
    I don't know what Assange is experiencing. I haven't been paying attention. But I have heard from numerous criminal defense attorneys that pre-trial solitary can be _considerably_ worse than prisons with the "hardcore criminals". As a recent example, the infamous Michael Avenatti, a purely white collar criminal, was being held at MCC New York (a jail that's literally downtown. It's crazy. Look it up). This is where El Chapo was held and where Epstein killed himself. At one point his attorneys begged the judge for relief as he was sleeping without any blankets in about 30F temperature, always in solitary, not allowed to have materials or even legal documents. I imagine conditions in the UK _could_ be similar but I hope to God they aren't.
  - 867-5309 7y ago
    -other
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discordance 7y ago
As an Australian I am ashamed that our government has left Assange out to dry. His actions and cause aside, letting one of your citizens effectively be tortured [0] is unacceptable. 0: https://www.theguardian.com/media/2019/may/31/julian-assange-shows-psychological-torture-symptoms-says-un-expert https://www.theguardian.com/media/2019/may/31/julian-assange...
- dkersten 7y ago
  Have you complained to your elected official?
  - discordance 7y ago
    Yes, and thank you for pointing that out. I encourage everyone to do this.
jamisteven 7y ago
I really wonder if he knew what he was getting into when he went down this path.
- zelphirkalt 7y ago
  Perhaps he was one of the few people, who really had insight into how far the depravity of government and censorship really goes. So perhaps he knew or could have known.
chalst 7y ago
Craig Murray's coverage of the Assange trial has been superb.
acqq 7y ago
He writes a bit confusing, but if I understand correctly, he wants help in the following: - Finding an information about what was the "the intention of parliament" passing the 2003 Extradition Act. He writes: "I feel fairly confident that to get the Act through the Commons and especially the Lords, ministers will have been obliged to give some reassurance it was not intended to use it against peaceful political dissidents."

73 points by leavenotracks 7y ago

After only a few weeks of self-quarantine (which is nothing as I can still have most of my regular freedoms, going outside etc) its insane to think of what Julian has been put through. It's getting to the point where even a mass murder has probably suffered less than this guy has and really, for hosting documents provided by whistle-blowers ?

jjallen 7y ago
Really? You don’t think prison with tons of other hardcore criminals would be worse?
- zelphirkalt 7y ago
  This is about treatment by government and in the process, not in prison from other inmates.
- Waterluvian 7y ago
  I don't know what Assange is experiencing. I haven't been paying attention. But I have heard from numerous criminal defense attorneys that pre-trial solitary can be _considerably_ worse than prisons with the "hardcore criminals". As a recent example, the infamous Michael Avenatti, a purely white collar criminal, was being held at MCC New York (a jail that's literally downtown. It's crazy. Look it up). This is where El Chapo was held and where Epstein killed himself. At one point his attorneys begged the judge for relief as he was sleeping without any blankets in about 30F temperature, always in solitary, not allowed to have materials or even legal documents. I imagine conditions in the UK _could_ be similar but I hope to God they aren't.
- 867-5309 7y ago
  -other
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discordance 7y ago

As an Australian I am ashamed that our government has left Assange out to dry. His actions and cause aside, letting one of your citizens effectively be tortured [0] is unacceptable. 0: https://www.theguardian.com/media/2019/may/31/julian-assange-shows-psychological-torture-symptoms-says-un-expert https://www.theguardian.com/media/2019/may/31/julian-assange...

dkersten 7y ago
Have you complained to your elected official?
- discordance 7y ago
  Yes, and thank you for pointing that out. I encourage everyone to do this.

jamisteven 7y ago

I really wonder if he knew what he was getting into when he went down this path.

zelphirkalt 7y ago
Perhaps he was one of the few people, who really had insight into how far the depravity of government and censorship really goes. So perhaps he knew or could have known.

chalst 7y ago

Craig Murray's coverage of the Assange trial has been superb.

acqq 7y ago

He writes a bit confusing, but if I understand correctly, he wants help in the following: - Finding an information about what was the "the intention of parliament" passing the 2003 Extradition Act. He writes: "I feel fairly confident that to get the Act through the Commons and especially the Lords, ministers will have been obliged to give some reassurance it was not intended to use it against peaceful political dissidents."