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Ah, Linus Pauling was just one letter off https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_C_and_the_common_cold https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_C_and_the_common_col

Ah, Linus Pauling was just one letter off https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_C_and_the_common_cold https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_C_and_the_common_cold

confeit 7y ago
Vitamin C, taken orally, reduces length of cold with 8% in adults, and 12% in children. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10796569 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10796569 Vitamin C deficiency makes you more susceptible to the cold and severe infections. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16988135 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16988135 Vitamin C has shown inhibitory effect in chickens for avian coronavirus. https://academic.oup.com/jac/article/52/6/1049/731701 https://academic.oup.com/jac/article/52/6/1049/731701 Chinese are testing intravenous Vitamin C for treating COVID-19 with promising results for reducing cytokine-induced damage to the lungs. https://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=228745 https://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=2... I am really not sure why news organizations all around the world feel the need to debunk Vitamin C usage for novel coronavirus. For instance: https://www.snopes.com/news/2020/03/09/coronavirus-its-time-to-debunk-claims-that-vitamin-c-could-cure-it/ https://www.snopes.com/news/2020/03/09/coronavirus-its-time-... . Their conclusions all amount to: washing hands is better, you may get a tummy ache, and don't believe folk remedies.
- TheSpiceIsLife 7y ago
  Vitamin C is essential. This means it is essential for tissue repair. Also the production of neurotransmitters / cell signalling molecules. Of course it improves recovery and reduces severity of symptoms. Of course it won't prevent anything. I can't understand how there is any dispute.
  - prox 7y ago
    Also the word VITAmine gives it away, doesnt it :)
    - TheSpiceIsLife 7y ago
      That is the idea. A lot of people are magnesium deficient too. Magnesium is known essential in over 300 enzyme pathways.
  - majkinetor 7y ago
    > Of course it won't prevent anything. You are full of nonsence. Of course it prevents scurvy ffs. > This means it is essential for tissue repair. This totally doesn't mean that. Vitamin C is cofactor and resource. It is used in bunch of processes, only some of it are for repair.
    - TheSpiceIsLife 7y ago
      Ah, sorry, yes, that's true. I didn't mean Vitamin C doesn't prevent Vitamin C deficiency. Your second statement doesn't negate my claim that Vitamin C is essential for tissue repair. It absolutely is, but of course that's not all it's essential for, and I did hint at this in the bit you didn't quote.
- david_draco 7y ago
  https://www.xkcd.com/882/ https://www.xkcd.com/882/ There are issues with significance. Everyone loves testing Vitamin C as a cure for X. Wake me up when follow-up studies from another group show an effect.
majkinetor 7y ago
He was not off. Vitamin C is probably the only well known anti-viral agent used by basically entire planet. I suggest anybody to take several grams of C, in divided doses (mandatory) all the time, particularly now (also inform your elders). There is no downside to this, there can only be neutral or positive effects (to anybody jumping about oxalate levels, please stop your thoughts now). Pauling also claimed you need to take bunch of other vitamins in his books - 25K IU A, 5K D etc... so he was not mistaken. If it was only about vitamin C, he would not call his medicine orthomolecular but probably ascorbatomolecular ... His claims on C were never tested (not in the doses he used, but using x10-x100 times lower doses). What happend then was not medicine, but politics.

Ah, Linus Pauling was just one letter off https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_C_and_the_common_cold https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_C_and_the_common_cold

confeit 7y ago

Vitamin C, taken orally, reduces length of cold with 8% in adults, and 12% in children. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10796569 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10796569 Vitamin C deficiency makes you more susceptible to the cold and severe infections. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16988135 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16988135 Vitamin C has shown inhibitory effect in chickens for avian coronavirus. https://academic.oup.com/jac/article/52/6/1049/731701 https://academic.oup.com/jac/article/52/6/1049/731701 Chinese are testing intravenous Vitamin C for treating COVID-19 with promising results for reducing cytokine-induced damage to the lungs. https://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=228745 https://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=2... I am really not sure why news organizations all around the world feel the need to debunk Vitamin C usage for novel coronavirus. For instance: https://www.snopes.com/news/2020/03/09/coronavirus-its-time-to-debunk-claims-that-vitamin-c-could-cure-it/ https://www.snopes.com/news/2020/03/09/coronavirus-its-time-... . Their conclusions all amount to: washing hands is better, you may get a tummy ache, and don't believe folk remedies.

TheSpiceIsLife 7y ago
Vitamin C is essential. This means it is essential for tissue repair. Also the production of neurotransmitters / cell signalling molecules. Of course it improves recovery and reduces severity of symptoms. Of course it won't prevent anything. I can't understand how there is any dispute.
- prox 7y ago
  Also the word VITAmine gives it away, doesnt it :)
  - TheSpiceIsLife 7y ago
    That is the idea. A lot of people are magnesium deficient too. Magnesium is known essential in over 300 enzyme pathways.
- majkinetor 7y ago
  > Of course it won't prevent anything. You are full of nonsence. Of course it prevents scurvy ffs. > This means it is essential for tissue repair. This totally doesn't mean that. Vitamin C is cofactor and resource. It is used in bunch of processes, only some of it are for repair.
  - TheSpiceIsLife 7y ago
    Ah, sorry, yes, that's true. I didn't mean Vitamin C doesn't prevent Vitamin C deficiency. Your second statement doesn't negate my claim that Vitamin C is essential for tissue repair. It absolutely is, but of course that's not all it's essential for, and I did hint at this in the bit you didn't quote.
david_draco 7y ago
https://www.xkcd.com/882/ https://www.xkcd.com/882/ There are issues with significance. Everyone loves testing Vitamin C as a cure for X. Wake me up when follow-up studies from another group show an effect.

majkinetor 7y ago

He was not off. Vitamin C is probably the only well known anti-viral agent used by basically entire planet. I suggest anybody to take several grams of C, in divided doses (mandatory) all the time, particularly now (also inform your elders). There is no downside to this, there can only be neutral or positive effects (to anybody jumping about oxalate levels, please stop your thoughts now). Pauling also claimed you need to take bunch of other vitamins in his books - 25K IU A, 5K D etc... so he was not mistaken. If it was only about vitamin C, he would not call his medicine orthomolecular but probably ascorbatomolecular ... His claims on C were never tested (not in the doses he used, but using x10-x100 times lower doses). What happend then was not medicine, but politics.