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Yeah, and I'm really don't like the special treatment for "enemy combatants" as well. Does the right to life, liberty and happiness apply to all mankind or jus

by nas 16y ago

Yeah, and I'm really don't like the special treatment for "enemy combatants" as well. Does the right to life, liberty and happiness apply to all mankind or just to people the US government is not currently scared of?

Natsu 16y ago
> Does the right to life, liberty and happiness apply to all mankind or just to people the US government is not currently scared of? Scared people are scary. Really scary, when backed far enough into a corner.
colinplamondon 16y ago
Are you asking if the American Constitution and the American Bill of Rights only applies to Americans? Enemy combatants belong to non-state actors, and so no treaties or guidelines apply to them. Last I checked Al doesn't Al Qaeda and the rest of the cavers don't get representatives in the UN.
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- JoachimSchipper 16y ago
  Actually, at least the Universal Declaration of Human Rights does apply to them.
  - marshray 16y ago
    Unless the United Nations finds it inconvenient: http://www.un.org/en/documents/udhr/index.shtml http://www.un.org/en/documents/udhr/index.shtml Article 29(3) These rights and freedoms may in no case be exercised contrary to the purposes and principles of the United Nations.
- jbooth 16y ago
  How we choose to act in the absence of treaties or guidelines says a lot more about us than it does about inalienable human rights.
- dailyrorschach 16y ago
  Actually, the US Constitution is much broader in terms of protecting individuals then I think you realize. The Constitution is specific when it intends to reserve rights only for citizens, otherwise it uses the word Persons. See perhaps most recently _Boumediene v. Bush_ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boumediene_v._Bush http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boumediene_v._Bush Namely that these enemy combatants do have rights under the Constitution in this case the right to a habeas petition. The other relevant historic case-law here is _Yick Wo v. Hopkins (1886)_ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yick_Wo_v._Hopkins http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yick_Wo_v._Hopkins "these provisions [the Constitution] are universal in their application, to all persons within the territorial jurisdiction."
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by nas 16y ago

Natsu 16y ago

> Does the right to life, liberty and happiness apply to all mankind or just to people the US government is not currently scared of? Scared people are scary. Really scary, when backed far enough into a corner.

colinplamondon 16y ago

Are you asking if the American Constitution and the American Bill of Rights only applies to Americans? Enemy combatants belong to non-state actors, and so no treaties or guidelines apply to them. Last I checked Al doesn't Al Qaeda and the rest of the cavers don't get representatives in the UN.

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JoachimSchipper 16y ago
Actually, at least the Universal Declaration of Human Rights does apply to them.
- marshray 16y ago
  Unless the United Nations finds it inconvenient: http://www.un.org/en/documents/udhr/index.shtml http://www.un.org/en/documents/udhr/index.shtml Article 29(3) These rights and freedoms may in no case be exercised contrary to the purposes and principles of the United Nations.
jbooth 16y ago
How we choose to act in the absence of treaties or guidelines says a lot more about us than it does about inalienable human rights.
dailyrorschach 16y ago
Actually, the US Constitution is much broader in terms of protecting individuals then I think you realize. The Constitution is specific when it intends to reserve rights only for citizens, otherwise it uses the word Persons. See perhaps most recently _Boumediene v. Bush_ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boumediene_v._Bush http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boumediene_v._Bush Namely that these enemy combatants do have rights under the Constitution in this case the right to a habeas petition. The other relevant historic case-law here is _Yick Wo v. Hopkins (1886)_ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yick_Wo_v._Hopkins http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yick_Wo_v._Hopkins "these provisions [the Constitution] are universal in their application, to all persons within the territorial jurisdiction."

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