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Curse you Bezos for your evil plan to supply us with much needed goods.

by divbzero 7y ago

a3n 7y ago
At the physical expense of his wage slaves.
- AnthonyMouse 7y ago
  The "wage slaves" are given the opportunity to leave and work at any other company that will hire them and yet willingly choose not to. That implies quite a non-traditional definition of slavery.
  - a3n 7y ago
    Yes, it does, doesn't it?
  - modo_mario 7y ago
    Can you explain the strikes, complaints about work pressure (having to piss in bottles, ridiculous uncontextual performance requirements), high workplace injury rate compared to competitors, etc given this abundant choice.
    - AnthonyMouse 7y ago
      It's a large company with thousands of employees, and the company has stepped on a lot of toes by out-competing many, many brick and mortar retailers, so there is "consumer demand" for reports of their inherent wickedness and every malcontent gets a microphone. I repeat the same question -- if they don't like it there so much, why not go work for Walmart? Or Target, Home Depot, BJ's, etc.? If the way they're attracting employees is by offering better pay and benefits than competitors rather than by offering a less demanding job, it's not as if that isn't public information. Why would you choose a thing and then object to the trade offs inherent in it? People have this desire for them to do both, but if the job was less demanding then they could attract employees with less compensation, and they'd have every reason to not pay as much. So why is it wrong for employees to prefer to get paid more in exchange for fewer breaks? It's like people hate for anybody to have a choice. If you work for Amazon you get paid more but work inflexible hours with limited breaks. If you work for Uber you get paid less but you set your own hours and can take a break whenever you want. Yet somehow both of these are put up as examples of mistreatment. They're just the trade offs inherent in the unskilled labor market.
      - Jax2_Hannah 7y ago
        When I got my raise recently, I still got the same amount of breaks as I did before, and sometimes I can take tiny breaks while working on the floor. Yet, I don't understand what you mean by inflexible hours. I understand it's not like Uber, but it's got more schedules than most businesses. My site has 5 different FT schedules, and a PT schedule: 2 on night shift, and 3 on day shift. I initially chose this job because the hours were perfect for my schedule. Plus I'm able to have more time off during the week to spend time with family since I only work 4 days. It also makes it easier to get that OT and still have days off. I do believe this is unskilled labor, and I believe we should be paid accordingly to it. But that doesn't mean we can't learn skills while we're here and get promotions because of it. Well thanks for listening, and I hope you stay well.
BurningFrog 7y ago
And much needed jobs. So evil!
- ta999999171 7y ago
  Just like Uber provides "jobs"?
  - TeMPOraL 7y ago
    This is not the case of shit jobs that trap people, provided by a notoriously antisocial company engaging in illegal things. This is a case of jobs critical for the society at this moment, provided at a time where half of the country is about to become unemployed.
- _pmf_ 7y ago
  With any job that requires urinating into bottles to keep low tier managers' KPIs good, I somewhat doubt the attribute "much needed".
  - cletus 7y ago
    Thing is, delivery drivers elsewhere actually do this by choice. UPS and FedEx drivers are paid for a set of deliveries. If they can do them quicker then they get the same money but for less time. In NYC finding a restroom can be a real pain and a waste of precious time. It’s far easier to urinate in a bottle on the truck and keep moving. I imagine they eat while on the move too. So I’m not quite sure this is the indignity you make it or to be.
    - mschuster91 7y ago
      > So I’m not quite sure this is the indignity you make it or to be. It is. Eating during driving is dangerous, even more so with a multi ton delivery truck. Pissing in a bottle is disgusting and a public health risk (where to properly wash hands, for one). If delivery set prices do not cover that employees get enough time to decently work, then they have to be raised!

Curse you Bezos for your evil plan to supply us with much needed goods.

a3n 7y ago

At the physical expense of his wage slaves.

AnthonyMouse 7y ago
The "wage slaves" are given the opportunity to leave and work at any other company that will hire them and yet willingly choose not to. That implies quite a non-traditional definition of slavery.
- a3n 7y ago
  Yes, it does, doesn't it?
- modo_mario 7y ago
  Can you explain the strikes, complaints about work pressure (having to piss in bottles, ridiculous uncontextual performance requirements), high workplace injury rate compared to competitors, etc given this abundant choice.
  - AnthonyMouse 7y ago
    It's a large company with thousands of employees, and the company has stepped on a lot of toes by out-competing many, many brick and mortar retailers, so there is "consumer demand" for reports of their inherent wickedness and every malcontent gets a microphone. I repeat the same question -- if they don't like it there so much, why not go work for Walmart? Or Target, Home Depot, BJ's, etc.? If the way they're attracting employees is by offering better pay and benefits than competitors rather than by offering a less demanding job, it's not as if that isn't public information. Why would you choose a thing and then object to the trade offs inherent in it? People have this desire for them to do both, but if the job was less demanding then they could attract employees with less compensation, and they'd have every reason to not pay as much. So why is it wrong for employees to prefer to get paid more in exchange for fewer breaks? It's like people hate for anybody to have a choice. If you work for Amazon you get paid more but work inflexible hours with limited breaks. If you work for Uber you get paid less but you set your own hours and can take a break whenever you want. Yet somehow both of these are put up as examples of mistreatment. They're just the trade offs inherent in the unskilled labor market.
    - Jax2_Hannah 7y ago
      When I got my raise recently, I still got the same amount of breaks as I did before, and sometimes I can take tiny breaks while working on the floor. Yet, I don't understand what you mean by inflexible hours. I understand it's not like Uber, but it's got more schedules than most businesses. My site has 5 different FT schedules, and a PT schedule: 2 on night shift, and 3 on day shift. I initially chose this job because the hours were perfect for my schedule. Plus I'm able to have more time off during the week to spend time with family since I only work 4 days. It also makes it easier to get that OT and still have days off. I do believe this is unskilled labor, and I believe we should be paid accordingly to it. But that doesn't mean we can't learn skills while we're here and get promotions because of it. Well thanks for listening, and I hope you stay well.

BurningFrog 7y ago

And much needed jobs. So evil!

ta999999171 7y ago
Just like Uber provides "jobs"?
- TeMPOraL 7y ago
  This is not the case of shit jobs that trap people, provided by a notoriously antisocial company engaging in illegal things. This is a case of jobs critical for the society at this moment, provided at a time where half of the country is about to become unemployed.
_pmf_ 7y ago
With any job that requires urinating into bottles to keep low tier managers' KPIs good, I somewhat doubt the attribute "much needed".
- cletus 7y ago
  Thing is, delivery drivers elsewhere actually do this by choice. UPS and FedEx drivers are paid for a set of deliveries. If they can do them quicker then they get the same money but for less time. In NYC finding a restroom can be a real pain and a waste of precious time. It’s far easier to urinate in a bottle on the truck and keep moving. I imagine they eat while on the move too. So I’m not quite sure this is the indignity you make it or to be.
  - mschuster91 7y ago
    > So I’m not quite sure this is the indignity you make it or to be. It is. Eating during driving is dangerous, even more so with a multi ton delivery truck. Pissing in a bottle is disgusting and a public health risk (where to properly wash hands, for one). If delivery set prices do not cover that employees get enough time to decently work, then they have to be raised!