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Well you aren't wrong but if the person is at death's door and this has been used in several cases already for other viruses (and China is rushing it on 1000 pe

by ck2 7y ago

Well you aren't wrong but if the person is at death's door and this has been used in several cases already for other viruses (and China is rushing it on 1000 people?!) why not?

save_ferris 7y ago
Because China using it on 1000 people shouldn’t be evidence enough for widespread use yet. They’re highly motivated to make this go away seeing as they’re largely blamed for its genesis. We can’t forget that they have a very different view on humane treatment of people than what’s currently accepted in the west (i.e. the Chinese Uighur concentration camps that currently exist.)
- coldtea 7y ago
  "than what’s currently accepted in the west" for western citizens, IFTFY
icedchai 7y ago
Yeah, if there were no other viable options, I'd try it. But I'm not the government or a doctor... what do I know.
wahern 7y ago
Doctors are using it. From a story published last week: > While awaiting these results, doctors in the US, China and Italy are already using remdesivir on a compassionate basis to treat small numbers of patients with severe Covid-19. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/10/hopes-rise-over-experimental-drugs-effectiveness-against-coronavirus https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/10/hopes-rise-ove...
- ramblerman 7y ago
  > on a compassionate basis Is this medical speak? What do they mean by that.
  - bourgoin 7y ago
    Something like "Some threshold of official approval/proven safety has not been met, but we'll break the rule this time and give it to them anyway since they're very sick and we don't have any other options."
  - deleted 7y ago
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  - tinus_hn 7y ago
    It refers to a special kind of use for medication that is not approved. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expanded_access https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expanded_access
  - foxyv 7y ago
    It means that the FDA will make an exception for unapproved drugs if the other option is to just let the person die or suffer needlessly. For example, it is usually used in cases where the patient will die anyways and they need something to keep them comfortable. (palliative care) This is how a lot of cancer patients got exceptions for marijuana use before medical legalization.

by ck2 7y ago

Well you aren't wrong but if the person is at death's door and this has been used in several cases already for other viruses (and China is rushing it on 1000 people?!) why not?

save_ferris 7y ago

Because China using it on 1000 people shouldn’t be evidence enough for widespread use yet. They’re highly motivated to make this go away seeing as they’re largely blamed for its genesis. We can’t forget that they have a very different view on humane treatment of people than what’s currently accepted in the west (i.e. the Chinese Uighur concentration camps that currently exist.)

coldtea 7y ago
"than what’s currently accepted in the west" for western citizens, IFTFY

icedchai 7y ago

Yeah, if there were no other viable options, I'd try it. But I'm not the government or a doctor... what do I know.

wahern 7y ago

Doctors are using it. From a story published last week: > While awaiting these results, doctors in the US, China and Italy are already using remdesivir on a compassionate basis to treat small numbers of patients with severe Covid-19. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/10/hopes-rise-over-experimental-drugs-effectiveness-against-coronavirus https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/10/hopes-rise-ove...

ramblerman 7y ago
> on a compassionate basis Is this medical speak? What do they mean by that.
- bourgoin 7y ago
  Something like "Some threshold of official approval/proven safety has not been met, but we'll break the rule this time and give it to them anyway since they're very sick and we don't have any other options."
- deleted 7y ago
  [deleted]
- tinus_hn 7y ago
  It refers to a special kind of use for medication that is not approved. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expanded_access https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expanded_access
- foxyv 7y ago
  It means that the FDA will make an exception for unapproved drugs if the other option is to just let the person die or suffer needlessly. For example, it is usually used in cases where the patient will die anyways and they need something to keep them comfortable. (palliative care) This is how a lot of cancer patients got exceptions for marijuana use before medical legalization.