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Related: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2259673 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2259673 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2259195 http://news.ycomb

Related: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2259673 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2259673 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2259195 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2259195 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2259121 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2259121 (not that I don't appreciate the upvotes (thank you!), but I sometimes find it a little depressing when I get more votes for cross-referencing items like this than for original work that provides real information: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2259761 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2259761 )

kmfrk 16y ago
Are you still creating these comments with an automated script, or are you doing it manually? I recall pg banning a script that did the exact same thing, but I can't recalled how that discussion ended.
- RiderOfGiraffes 16y ago
  I don't know of PG banning a script. He never banned mine, but I never let mine run uncontrolled. But no, I'm doing this "by hand" now. My memory makes it easy to spot duplicates, my work flow makes it fast to create the text. When I care. I'm starting to care less, and letting lots of repeats, duplicates and re-hashes go unremarked. For example, suddenly there are lotsof items about networking. They should all be tied together, but I really can't be bothered. HN is potentially a brilliant resource, but it's being squandered. Saddens me a little, but having been mauled for experimenting with a way that might have improved it, I'm reluctant to bother again.
  - orky56 16y ago
    Feels like a paper newspaper. Filled with amazing information that you take the time to read. However, when you want to recall any of it, it's too late since it's already in some landfill somewhere. I think it is up to the community to create pages outside HN that compile the information and take it one step further. After all, it needs to provide additional value to those who have already read the articles individually.
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  - gbhn 16y ago
    How about an "hntopics.com" site where you collect these duplicates? Something merging comment threads would be interesting, but even just "here are wikileaks articles that have made it to the front page" kind of organization with links would be really interesting. Annotating the threads with links would be useful, but perhaps that's overstepping a boundary?
srean 16y ago
I think your automated script was very helpful. I would urge you to bring it back. Particularly now that I distinctly feel that duplicates have been on the rise. By duplicate I do not mean the exact url are resubmitted but articles or announcements that have a huge overlap in content.
- RiderOfGiraffes 16y ago
  I agree that there's a large rise in duplication of story, without necessarily a duplication of URL. Many more people, many more feeds, one feed has a story, the others all pick it up, suddenly it everywhere, and several are submitted. Not sure what the "right" solution is. I'm still thinking about it. And thanks for the support. It's appreciated.

kmfrk 16y ago

Are you still creating these comments with an automated script, or are you doing it manually? I recall pg banning a script that did the exact same thing, but I can't recalled how that discussion ended.

RiderOfGiraffes 16y ago
I don't know of PG banning a script. He never banned mine, but I never let mine run uncontrolled. But no, I'm doing this "by hand" now. My memory makes it easy to spot duplicates, my work flow makes it fast to create the text. When I care. I'm starting to care less, and letting lots of repeats, duplicates and re-hashes go unremarked. For example, suddenly there are lotsof items about networking. They should all be tied together, but I really can't be bothered. HN is potentially a brilliant resource, but it's being squandered. Saddens me a little, but having been mauled for experimenting with a way that might have improved it, I'm reluctant to bother again.
- orky56 16y ago
  Feels like a paper newspaper. Filled with amazing information that you take the time to read. However, when you want to recall any of it, it's too late since it's already in some landfill somewhere. I think it is up to the community to create pages outside HN that compile the information and take it one step further. After all, it needs to provide additional value to those who have already read the articles individually.
- deleted 16y ago
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- gbhn 16y ago
  How about an "hntopics.com" site where you collect these duplicates? Something merging comment threads would be interesting, but even just "here are wikileaks articles that have made it to the front page" kind of organization with links would be really interesting. Annotating the threads with links would be useful, but perhaps that's overstepping a boundary?

srean 16y ago

I think your automated script was very helpful. I would urge you to bring it back. Particularly now that I distinctly feel that duplicates have been on the rise. By duplicate I do not mean the exact url are resubmitted but articles or announcements that have a huge overlap in content.

RiderOfGiraffes 16y ago
I agree that there's a large rise in duplication of story, without necessarily a duplication of URL. Many more people, many more feeds, one feed has a story, the others all pick it up, suddenly it everywhere, and several are submitted. Not sure what the "right" solution is. I'm still thinking about it. And thanks for the support. It's appreciated.