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Another important one: > Under the order, residents will still be allowed to take a walk, exercise or take a pet out to use the bathroom as long as people rema
by hisnameisjimmy 7y ago
Another important one:
> Under the order, residents will still be allowed to take a walk, exercise or take a pet out to use the bathroom as long as people remain at least six-feet away from others who are not a member of their own household.
- TomVDB 7y agoI was wondering about the exercising part: do I need to feel guilty about going out for a run or a bike ride (by myself, of course) ?
- davidw 7y agoIn Italy, they've actually banned bike riding as a training activity since you're not supposed to go far from home, and out of an abundance of caution: if you hurt yourself you might be tying up desperately needed medical services, and also going near the hospitals full of COVID-19 patients. Seems like it'd be a good idea to limit really big, difficult workouts in order to not tire yourself out too much, and probably stay close to home as well.
- TomVDB 7y agoGood point. I didn’t consider the getting injured aspect of it.
- brenden2 7y agoDid they also ban driving? It's a lot more dangerous than riding a bike.
- davidw 7y agoThey're talking about bike riding for fun/training, not as transportation.
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- dmurray 7y agoThat's not true: driving results in between 3 and 12 times fewer deaths per passenger-mile than cycling, depending on your methodology. [0]. Even if you take it to be only 3x and compare per passenger-hour rather than per passenger-mile, which nobody ever does, you would find they are roughly equally dangerous. [0] https://bicycleuniverse.com/bicycle-safety-almanac/ https://bicycleuniverse.com/bicycle-safety-almanac/
- brenden2 7y agoIf you subtract all the cyclists who are hit by cars from those statistics, then cycling is orders of magnitude safer. It's only dangerous when there are cars on the road.
- dmurray 7y agoIf you're the only car on the road, it's substantially safer too. The roads won't be completely empty of cars during the lockdown.
- daveFNbuck 7y agoThey've been pretty empty so far. It's probably the safest time to use the roads in the area right now.
- davidw 7y agoLike I wrote in the other comment, you can ride your bike to work/the grocery store in Italy, just not go for training rides. If you want to really start factoring stuff in to how healthy or not it is, you should factor in the sedentary lifestyle that too much driving leads to, as well.
- thaumasiotes 7y ago> Even if you take it to be only 3x and compare per passenger-hour rather than per passenger-mile, which nobody ever does But driver-hours (definitely not passenger-hours) are the correct metric if you're considering biking as a substitute for driving. People take longer trips in cars than they do on bikes because they can. If the mode of transportation shifts, trips to the store won't get longer to adjust -- the stores will become more dense to accommodate the reality that people need closer stores.
- physicles 7y agoHoly crap. I’ve been in Beijing for the last month and even they didn’t ban bike riding.
- thaumasiotes 7y ago"Even" Beijing didn't ban bike riding? Who's more likely to ban bike riding: the place where bikes are a vital form of everyday transportation, or the place where they're a weird recreational activity?
- yissp 7y agoStaying active is probably good for your immune system. At least that's how I'm going to rationalize it :)
- earthtourist 7y agoThis is just what the science tells us, no rationalization required! Everyone should exercise, sleep, and eat right to prepare for the coming battle inside our bodies :)
- jeltz 7y agoHeavy exercise is bad for the immune system short term. But maintaining your health with lighter sessions is probably a good idea.
- pmoriarty 7y agoYes, but you don't have to go outside to exercise. Plenty of exercise can be done indoors, and without any equipment either. You could do bodyweight exercise like push-ups, L-sits, burpees, and many others without any equipment. For a small investment you could get a couple of barbells or a pull-up bar to extend even further the number of exercises you can do indoors and in a very small space.
- localhost 7y agoJeff Cavaliere just released an excellent home training program that doesn't require any specialized equipment. He does an amazing job at explaining why you should do each exercise and provides variations for different levels of ability. The video description contains details of the program, sets & reps. Highly recommended: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vc1E5CfRfos&t=1s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vc1E5CfRfos&t=1s
- spookthesunset 7y agoOr go outside and exercise without feeling guilty. Being outside is important to your mental and physical health.
- avip 7y agoI think the responsible thing to do is limit yourself to minimal risk activities s.a jogging. You do not want to find yourself seeking medical care.
- oddsockmachine 7y agoSF Bicycle Coalition is suggesting that it's fine: https://twitter.com/sfbike/status/1239658920718643200 https://twitter.com/sfbike/status/1239658920718643200
- tekknik 7y agoI’m sure they’re experts in this area and definitely an authority on the matter. SF has a massive homeless problem, how “happy” do you think that virus is in the city atm?
- humaniania 7y agoHow would you feel about an infected person running around breathing all over the place? Other people don't know your health status.
- thaumasiotes 7y agoThat would be the idea of making them wear a mask when they go out in public.
- spookthesunset 7y agoThey would most likely be fine. People who know more about medical stuff than random HN posters say it is perfectly fine to walk or run outside. So do it. It is good for your mental and physical health.
- onetimemanytime 7y agoThe second order annuls the first order. Daycare will be closed--we know why. Curfew will be imposed. People need to prepare for 2 months of lock-down (two weeks didn't work anywhere) Virtually everything will stop, no one will risk their life (food, pharma and essentials obviously will go on)
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- drdeadringer 7y agoWhere is this second order against walking, hiking, and running in the Bay Area? Where do I find this curfew and what it is? Same for this "2 months prep".
- dentalperson 7y agoSee this for SF: https://www.sfdph.org/dph/alerts/files/HealthOrderC19-07-%20Shelter-in-Place.pdf https://www.sfdph.org/dph/alerts/files/HealthOrderC19-07-%20... There are similar orders for each county. Edit: It actually says that going out for safe exercise is allowed.
- onetimemanytime 7y agoits coming soon was the idea.
- artursapek 7y agoGod help us if taking a walk is ever outlawed, even temporarily