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Take your xenophobic yammering elsewhere please.

mardifoufs 7y ago
His tone was out of place but I don't see any xenophobia in his comment? Is it not ok to criticize China? China really did made huge mistakes early on. And there has been a lot of criticism towards the EU and the US too.
- inscionent 7y ago
  If the OP comment was the second half yours there wouldn't be an issue, but it wasn't, it was a simple racist screed scrawled upon a forum that I go to for useful information and substantive opinions.
  - dang 7y ago
    I've spent many, many hours telling HN commenters not to cross into nationalistic hostility, especially about China in recent years. But it's important to be precise with language if you're going to argue for tolerance. If you call a comment like the GP one racist, you'll only alienate readers who read the comment and don't see racism there. The comment contains plenty of other material that makes it a bad comment for HN. Internet commenters are much too quick to factor into camps and tribes and then use extra-intense labels ("racism" in this case) to denounce each other. This appeals only to the side that already agrees with you, and leads to a downward spiral in which each side keeps escalating and the rest of the audience just feels alienated and starts wishing for some other place. That path leads to HN no longer being a forum for useful information and substantive comments, so we all need to take a different path.
ta999999171 7y ago
This is almost as funny as when people cry about antisemitic behavior when their favorite celebrity person gets shit for scummy behavior.
- dang 7y ago
  We've banned this account for posting unsubstantive comments and ignoring our requests to stop. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
dang 7y ago
Please don't sink to this regardless of how bad another comment is. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- inscionent 7y ago
  Not clear what I sank to. Was yammering too far? What guideline are you directing me to? I feel that calling out this repugnant behavior is more that acceptable.
  - dang 7y ago
    The comment sank to personal attack and name-calling. We want thoughtful, curious discussion here. The online calling-out and shaming culture doesn't fit with that, so please don't practice those internet arts on HN. Your previous comment was similar: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22538238 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22538238. That's another example of what not to do on HN. Your more recent comment, though, is great: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22605788 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22605788. That's simple and factual.

His tone was out of place but I don't see any xenophobia in his comment? Is it not ok to criticize China? China really did made huge mistakes early on. And there has been a lot of criticism towards the EU and the US too.

inscionent 7y ago
If the OP comment was the second half yours there wouldn't be an issue, but it wasn't, it was a simple racist screed scrawled upon a forum that I go to for useful information and substantive opinions.
- dang 7y ago
  I've spent many, many hours telling HN commenters not to cross into nationalistic hostility, especially about China in recent years. But it's important to be precise with language if you're going to argue for tolerance. If you call a comment like the GP one racist, you'll only alienate readers who read the comment and don't see racism there. The comment contains plenty of other material that makes it a bad comment for HN. Internet commenters are much too quick to factor into camps and tribes and then use extra-intense labels ("racism" in this case) to denounce each other. This appeals only to the side that already agrees with you, and leads to a downward spiral in which each side keeps escalating and the rest of the audience just feels alienated and starts wishing for some other place. That path leads to HN no longer being a forum for useful information and substantive comments, so we all need to take a different path.

ta999999171 7y ago

This is almost as funny as when people cry about antisemitic behavior when their favorite celebrity person gets shit for scummy behavior.

dang 7y ago
We've banned this account for posting unsubstantive comments and ignoring our requests to stop. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

dang 7y ago

Please don't sink to this regardless of how bad another comment is. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

inscionent 7y ago
Not clear what I sank to. Was yammering too far? What guideline are you directing me to? I feel that calling out this repugnant behavior is more that acceptable.
- dang 7y ago
  The comment sank to personal attack and name-calling. We want thoughtful, curious discussion here. The online calling-out and shaming culture doesn't fit with that, so please don't practice those internet arts on HN. Your previous comment was similar: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22538238 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22538238. That's another example of what not to do on HN. Your more recent comment, though, is great: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22605788 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22605788. That's simple and factual.