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The US is our biggest trading partner. If they are also barred from entering the country, it would effectively grind the economy to a crawl.

burke 7y ago
Tourism, certainly, but that's already in the toilet regardless of who our border is open to. Even for overseas countries, we imposed no restrictions on trade or commerce, only visitors. I doubt this accounts for a non-trivial fraction of our economy, especially with public spaces already shutting down.
- phoobahr 7y ago
  The US is the only country we share a land border with and at the very least at this time of year 35million people will starve without trains and trucks over the border. So, yeah, the first logisitical barrier I can think of inside of 30 seconds.
  - mercurysmessage 7y ago
    Right in the article: "Trudeau said the new border controls will not apply to trade and commerce in order to keep Canada's supply chain open."
- smnrchrds 7y ago
  It doesn't look like it is just visitors. People with Study and Work Permits seem to be affected as well.
  - burke 7y ago
    Sure, and perhaps a solution for America would include work and study permits alongside permanent residence in the category of exceptions.
aprdm 7y ago
Trudeau mentioned it is just for people, trading and "deliveries" continue as usual.
- _delirium 7y ago
  Several countries are taking an approach like that. Denmark closed its borders to non-nationals, but the list of exceptions includes truck drivers doing cross-border deliveries.
munk-a 7y ago
That is a good consideration, but I think the US also has demonstrated some terrible handling of the situation - it's not super clear just how dire the situation in the US is because they have such a poor handle on tracking disease progress.
Tiktaalik 7y ago
Yeah from my understanding the automobile industry parts pipeline knows no borders. Closing the border could essentially mean shutting down all the car factories.
pkaye 7y ago
You can bar people but still allow trade. The economy is going to grind to a halt regardless.
OldHand2018 7y ago
If the Detroit/Windsor border crossing was closed, you can take another 15-25% off the NYSE.
gexla 7y ago
I don't even understand how you can generate this comment. Have you been watching developments around the world at all? China completely shut down, followed by so many countries I can't even keep up at this point. I'm living in a country (not China) where the mega metropolis capital city has been forcefully quarantined. How do you look at all this and think "the economy!" The world is way past that point. This is bigger than the economy, or maybe you know something that the rest of the world doesn't. In other words, the world economy is beyond screwed. That's already in the rear view mirror. We're going all in on stopping the spread.

burke 7y ago

Tourism, certainly, but that's already in the toilet regardless of who our border is open to. Even for overseas countries, we imposed no restrictions on trade or commerce, only visitors. I doubt this accounts for a non-trivial fraction of our economy, especially with public spaces already shutting down.

phoobahr 7y ago
The US is the only country we share a land border with and at the very least at this time of year 35million people will starve without trains and trucks over the border. So, yeah, the first logisitical barrier I can think of inside of 30 seconds.
- mercurysmessage 7y ago
  Right in the article: "Trudeau said the new border controls will not apply to trade and commerce in order to keep Canada's supply chain open."
smnrchrds 7y ago
It doesn't look like it is just visitors. People with Study and Work Permits seem to be affected as well.
- burke 7y ago
  Sure, and perhaps a solution for America would include work and study permits alongside permanent residence in the category of exceptions.

aprdm 7y ago

Trudeau mentioned it is just for people, trading and "deliveries" continue as usual.

_delirium 7y ago
Several countries are taking an approach like that. Denmark closed its borders to non-nationals, but the list of exceptions includes truck drivers doing cross-border deliveries.

munk-a 7y ago

That is a good consideration, but I think the US also has demonstrated some terrible handling of the situation - it's not super clear just how dire the situation in the US is because they have such a poor handle on tracking disease progress.

Tiktaalik 7y ago

Yeah from my understanding the automobile industry parts pipeline knows no borders. Closing the border could essentially mean shutting down all the car factories.

pkaye 7y ago

You can bar people but still allow trade. The economy is going to grind to a halt regardless.

OldHand2018 7y ago

If the Detroit/Windsor border crossing was closed, you can take another 15-25% off the NYSE.

gexla 7y ago

I don't even understand how you can generate this comment. Have you been watching developments around the world at all? China completely shut down, followed by so many countries I can't even keep up at this point. I'm living in a country (not China) where the mega metropolis capital city has been forcefully quarantined. How do you look at all this and think "the economy!" The world is way past that point. This is bigger than the economy, or maybe you know something that the rest of the world doesn't. In other words, the world economy is beyond screwed. That's already in the rear view mirror. We're going all in on stopping the spread.