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It seems that it only tells half the story. Perhaps he was pushing code from his holiday in Crimea and his IP got tagged. Something like that would possibly d
by jpz 7y ago
It seems that it only tells half the story.
Perhaps he was pushing code from his holiday in Crimea and his IP got tagged. Something like that would possibly do it.
- yakireev 7y agoLet's assume he did. Now what? Does it make the situation better for Microsoft? User is banned, repos are lost, comments and issues are lost, with no explanation whatsoever. Microsoft is covering its ass, while we all are at loss. There's no reason for you or me to be supportive of Microsoft in this situation.
- x0x0 7y agoMicrosoft simply isn't going to pick a fight with the US government. At least direct your anger at the right party.
- yakireev 7y agoMicrosoft could have handled the situation much better. Silently 404ing all repos while providing no communication and explanations is not a legal requirement.
- yuretz 7y agoWell, indeed there is. Shouldn't Russians share some collective responsibility for their government actions? I guess, in this case this was this specific person's share of responsibility.
- yakireev 7y agoFirst, since when collective responsibility became a good thing? Being responsible for things you never did is not something you want for yourself, so why want it for others? Second, it's not only that guy who's at loss, it's also all the people who used or might use his software. Are those people responsible for Russian government's actions too?
- yuretz 7y agoSince when are Russians responsible for the guys currently in charge of them, is that what you ask? Since around year 2000. The same bastards are elected. Every. Freaking. Time. Why shouldn't people who collectively, i.e. en masse, support their government by actively disrespecting other country sovereignty and border (e.g. visiting Crimea) shouldn't be hold responsible? I think they should! And it looks like I'm not alone, check out the list of countries who support sanctions against Russian companies and individuals. As for the damage done to the OSS, I believe it's pretty minimal. He'll just move his stuff to GitLab, end of story.
- kstenerud 7y agoYou're treading dangerously close to collective punishment.
- yuretz 7y agoWell, trade sanctions are a form of collective punishment.
- f-jin 7y ago(I'm not sure if you're from the US or not, but let's just assume you are) -- how responsible do you feel for the vast amount of war crimes commited by US soldiers in the middle east over the last few decades? Shouldn't Americans share some collective responsibility for their government actions?
- yuretz 7y agoOf course they should. Aren't Americans democratically electing their government every now and then? Does the US foreign policy ever change in any significant way during the last 40+ years?
- jpz 7y agoIt's not an issue of supporting or not supporting the corporate entity - and they must follow US law. Indeed, it's a fiduciary obligation to the shareholders given they are a listed company.
- smsm42 7y agoUS law does not require them to delete everything a person who once been in Crimea ever touched. Let's not shift the blame from stupid overreaction and corporate CYA to "follow the law". There are many ways of following the laws without being stupid.
- JdeBP 7y agoThe other half is now in the updated article. It was nothing to do with Crimea, it transpires.
- Svoka 7y agoHe created an issue "You're a <russian translation of 'fag'>"