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Those who are curious about why use Fossil SCM is this: You can carry it with you in the form of a .fossil file which is a portable database (SQLite). I should

Those who are curious about why use Fossil SCM is this: You can carry it with you in the form of a .fossil file which is a portable database (SQLite). I should start using Fossil more; seems like things are getting out of hand in an implicit way.

jrockway 7y ago
I mean... git repositories can be cloned. People that depend on libraries can vendor them, or outsource that job to someone else (like Google's go module cache / checksum database). Using git does not make your project vulnerable to the whims of Github, and it doesn't make your users vulnerable to the whims of Github. Ultimately, people that get banned from a site usually complain about it because they want something the site offers that they can't build themselves. People can distribute the source code without Github's help; what they offer is nice, but not essential. The community is hard to clone, though; and the community is a great way to get pull requests, bug reports, manage permissions, setup CI sandboxes, etc. (It reminds me a lot of YouTubers complaining about YouTube. The reason they don't self-host videos is not because it's hard to put an mp4 file on a webserver and let people download it. The part they can't reproduce is YouTube's steady stream of viewers and advertiser relationships. That is why they whine when YouTube demonitizes a video, but they don't leave the platform -- YouTube has something that they can't make themselves. Github is similar, though in my opinion, a lot less important.)
- capableweb 7y ago
  > I mean... git repositories can be cloned. People that depend on libraries can vendor them, or outsource that job to someone else (like Google's go module cache / checksum database). Using git does not make your project vulnerable to the whims of Github, and it doesn't make your users vulnerable to the whims of Github. The thing is that Fossil is not just the code source, it's the issues, wiki and all the information around. Basically a self-hosted GitHub, so you can take all information with you, not just the code.
  - peglasaurus 7y ago
    Didn't know that fossil let you take everything. That's worth having.

jrockway 7y ago

I mean... git repositories can be cloned. People that depend on libraries can vendor them, or outsource that job to someone else (like Google's go module cache / checksum database). Using git does not make your project vulnerable to the whims of Github, and it doesn't make your users vulnerable to the whims of Github. Ultimately, people that get banned from a site usually complain about it because they want something the site offers that they can't build themselves. People can distribute the source code without Github's help; what they offer is nice, but not essential. The community is hard to clone, though; and the community is a great way to get pull requests, bug reports, manage permissions, setup CI sandboxes, etc. (It reminds me a lot of YouTubers complaining about YouTube. The reason they don't self-host videos is not because it's hard to put an mp4 file on a webserver and let people download it. The part they can't reproduce is YouTube's steady stream of viewers and advertiser relationships. That is why they whine when YouTube demonitizes a video, but they don't leave the platform -- YouTube has something that they can't make themselves. Github is similar, though in my opinion, a lot less important.)

capableweb 7y ago
> I mean... git repositories can be cloned. People that depend on libraries can vendor them, or outsource that job to someone else (like Google's go module cache / checksum database). Using git does not make your project vulnerable to the whims of Github, and it doesn't make your users vulnerable to the whims of Github. The thing is that Fossil is not just the code source, it's the issues, wiki and all the information around. Basically a self-hosted GitHub, so you can take all information with you, not just the code.
- peglasaurus 7y ago
  Didn't know that fossil let you take everything. That's worth having.