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Re 1) Why would my friends loose all of their hours if their employers don't shut down? My friends are young enough that they would likely recover quickly from

Re 1) Why would my friends loose all of their hours if their employers don't shut down? My friends are young enough that they would likely recover quickly from the virus if they got it. Re 2) There is no way the police has the manpower to enforce a shutdown like that, even with help from the national guard. There would be riots. And where does food even come from in this hypathetical situation?

zerkten 7y ago
> Why would my friends loose all of their hours if their employers don't shut down? My friends are young enough that they would likely recover quickly from the virus if they got it. There is a chance your friends may lose their jobs in any case given how this is being managed. It'll be interesting to see how people treat each other in the coming weeks when people suspect they've not been social distancing. People are just going to get more entrenched in their politics. > where does food even come from in this hypathetical [sic] situation? Where does the food come from that the National Guard are delivering in New Rochelle? [1] A point that isn't well made in many of these threads is that these shutdowns are targeted. The behavior of people in the neighboring areas will also be impacted without being part of the shutdown, and these only need to go on for a limited period. I am curious how long the National Guard, etc. have remained engaged after other deployments. Do they need reauthorization after a certain timeframe? How does their engagement prevent better alternatives getting engaged? Someone has to have researched that, but I've never seen it brought up in discussions like this one. [1] https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/katebubacz/inside-new-rochelle-quarantine-photos https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/katebubacz/inside-new-r...
senordevnyc 7y ago
1) The employers will shut down, guaranteed. It's just a matter of whether we do it now or a few weeks from now. Just keeping everything open and running through this is not an option. The only way you can do that is to have an incredibly competent government that is on top of testing and contact tracing at all times, and that ship has long sailed. Look at the UK to see how this "keep things running and just protect the vulnerable" strategy plays out. It's already starting to break down and they'll be in lockdown in a week or two, but many more will ultimately die than they would have if they had locked down before they were forced to. It's not a question of if we lock down, but when. 2) Disagree. Again, look at Europe right now.

zerkten 7y ago

> Why would my friends loose all of their hours if their employers don't shut down? My friends are young enough that they would likely recover quickly from the virus if they got it. There is a chance your friends may lose their jobs in any case given how this is being managed. It'll be interesting to see how people treat each other in the coming weeks when people suspect they've not been social distancing. People are just going to get more entrenched in their politics. > where does food even come from in this hypathetical [sic] situation? Where does the food come from that the National Guard are delivering in New Rochelle? [1] A point that isn't well made in many of these threads is that these shutdowns are targeted. The behavior of people in the neighboring areas will also be impacted without being part of the shutdown, and these only need to go on for a limited period. I am curious how long the National Guard, etc. have remained engaged after other deployments. Do they need reauthorization after a certain timeframe? How does their engagement prevent better alternatives getting engaged? Someone has to have researched that, but I've never seen it brought up in discussions like this one. [1] https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/katebubacz/inside-new-rochelle-quarantine-photos https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/katebubacz/inside-new-r...

senordevnyc 7y ago

1) The employers will shut down, guaranteed. It's just a matter of whether we do it now or a few weeks from now. Just keeping everything open and running through this is not an option. The only way you can do that is to have an incredibly competent government that is on top of testing and contact tracing at all times, and that ship has long sailed. Look at the UK to see how this "keep things running and just protect the vulnerable" strategy plays out. It's already starting to break down and they'll be in lockdown in a week or two, but many more will ultimately die than they would have if they had locked down before they were forced to. It's not a question of if we lock down, but when. 2) Disagree. Again, look at Europe right now.