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Closing down schools, banning large gatherings, setting up drive thru testing, ramping up test kits next week, letting employees to work from home, closing bor

Closing down schools, banning large gatherings, setting up drive thru testing, ramping up test kits next week, letting employees to work from home, closing borders to China and Europe (25k cases), etc

deelowe 7y ago
Does that stuff help? Did Italy do that? Im seeing tons of people on IG using this time as a means to take vacations.
- Goladus 7y ago
  Does that stuff help? Yes, if practiced as intended, which there is no guarantee. Did Italy do that? Perhaps not as quickly as they should have. The rest of the world is learning from Italy's experience (they should have been paying closer attention to China, but that's another story) Another thing to realize is that these numbers you are seeing are WITH CONTROLS. Sure, "only" 3,000 Chinese have died. Maybe it's more than that, it's hard to trust Chinese numbers. But even at 2x or 3x, that's far cry from the millions it could have been, had China not both imposed extreme controls to limit the spread of the disease AND allocated emergency resources to healthcare. Some models show realistic scenarios where 5 million Americans die within a year, if the virus is allowed to spread at its maximum rate.
  - deelowe 7y ago
    Didn't one model show over 100M?
    - Amygaz 7y ago
      No. That would implies 100% infection, at a base reproduction rate 15 (close to measles), and a mortality of 30% (close to Ebola). If left unchecked covid-19 would infect 100-250 millions Americans. The R0 is 2.5-3. The average mortality rate is said to probably be closer to 1% rather the 3.4% previously advanced, so 1-2.5 millions deaths, which we will hopefully never reach if people follow the current social distancing and self-quarantine guidance.
    - Amygaz 7y ago
      No. That would imply 100% infection, at a base reproduction rate of 15 (close to measles), and a mortality rate of 30% (close to Ebola). If left unchecked covid-19 would infect 100-250 millions Americans. The R0 is 2.5-3. The average mortality rate is said to probably be closer to 1% rather the 3.4% previously advanced, so 1-2.5 millions deaths, which we will hopefully never reach if people follow the current social distancing and self-quarantine guidance.
      - deelowe 7y ago
        Thanks
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- notatoad 7y ago
  Yes, it helps. China had Hubei province on lockdown for the last couple months and that's a big reason that they have been able to control the spread. Italy should not be looked to as a model of how to handle this.
  - deelowe 7y ago
    Was China's lockdown similar? All I saw was the propaganda video of people being welded into their homes which was later debunked.
- nitrogen 7y ago
  As long as you vacation in places with few other people around, that is actually a really good way to spend the time.

deelowe 7y ago

Does that stuff help? Did Italy do that? Im seeing tons of people on IG using this time as a means to take vacations.

Goladus 7y ago
Does that stuff help? Yes, if practiced as intended, which there is no guarantee. Did Italy do that? Perhaps not as quickly as they should have. The rest of the world is learning from Italy's experience (they should have been paying closer attention to China, but that's another story) Another thing to realize is that these numbers you are seeing are WITH CONTROLS. Sure, "only" 3,000 Chinese have died. Maybe it's more than that, it's hard to trust Chinese numbers. But even at 2x or 3x, that's far cry from the millions it could have been, had China not both imposed extreme controls to limit the spread of the disease AND allocated emergency resources to healthcare. Some models show realistic scenarios where 5 million Americans die within a year, if the virus is allowed to spread at its maximum rate.
- deelowe 7y ago
  Didn't one model show over 100M?
  - Amygaz 7y ago
    No. That would implies 100% infection, at a base reproduction rate 15 (close to measles), and a mortality of 30% (close to Ebola). If left unchecked covid-19 would infect 100-250 millions Americans. The R0 is 2.5-3. The average mortality rate is said to probably be closer to 1% rather the 3.4% previously advanced, so 1-2.5 millions deaths, which we will hopefully never reach if people follow the current social distancing and self-quarantine guidance.
  - Amygaz 7y ago
    No. That would imply 100% infection, at a base reproduction rate of 15 (close to measles), and a mortality rate of 30% (close to Ebola). If left unchecked covid-19 would infect 100-250 millions Americans. The R0 is 2.5-3. The average mortality rate is said to probably be closer to 1% rather the 3.4% previously advanced, so 1-2.5 millions deaths, which we will hopefully never reach if people follow the current social distancing and self-quarantine guidance.
    - deelowe 7y ago
      Thanks
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notatoad 7y ago
Yes, it helps. China had Hubei province on lockdown for the last couple months and that's a big reason that they have been able to control the spread. Italy should not be looked to as a model of how to handle this.
- deelowe 7y ago
  Was China's lockdown similar? All I saw was the propaganda video of people being welded into their homes which was later debunked.
nitrogen 7y ago
As long as you vacation in places with few other people around, that is actually a really good way to spend the time.