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I submitted this as a new story but it's worth repeating here: here in Seattle, we're already Italy [0]. The hospitals are having to provision ECMO machines bas

I submitted this as a new story but it's worth repeating here: here in Seattle, we're already Italy [0]. The hospitals are having to provision ECMO machines based on demographic prognosis, and the respirators are probably only a couple days behind. Presumably this will be the situation in every major American city 2 weeks from now. [0]: https://twitter.com/scott_mintzer/status/1239290389963714562 https://twitter.com/scott_mintzer/status/1239290389963714562

jupp0r 7y ago
Except there is no complete lockdown in Seattle ...
turtlebits 7y ago
I went to pick up an to-go order yesterday and was surprised to find the local mall parking lot still full (U village) and people sitting in restaurants, with no care for keeping distance from each other. Ditto for the grocery store. I guess people still aren’t taking it seriously, even though Seattle schools and libraries are closed for a month+.
- thombat 7y ago
  Sunday afternoon the long distance trains in Germany had many Army and Navy personnel in uniform (which gets them free travel; may have been more in civvies paying their own way), including old reservists. We asked: they're preparing to institute mass isolation/quarantine, patrolling streets to "remind" people to stay at home. It isn't a question of "if" such measures will become necessary, it's just when will a country accept this, and how many extra deaths will be caused in that interval.
rjeli 7y ago
Does anyone have another source for this?
jupiter90000 7y ago
Some guy in Philly who talked to an "intensivist" in Seattle that we get to hear about 3rd hand? Hmm, ok.
Leary 7y ago
Wow not giving ECMO to BMI 25+ is really something. I am fairly skinny and it wouldn't take much for me to reach 25. They should consider revising the cutoff especially since Chinese people can be of thinner frames. 25 may be slightly overweight for them but normal for others.
- sneak 7y ago
  According to that thread, Seattle has only 12 ECMO machines in total.
- stefan_ 7y ago
  I don't understand, you want the virus to not kill people with >25 BMI to accommodate US standards? I don't think they chose these criteria because they just hate fat people.
jacquesm 7y ago
This update is interesting: https://twitter.com/scott_mintzer/status/1239330209247215617 https://twitter.com/scott_mintzer/status/1239330209247215617 "Scott Mintzer Brain @scott_mintzer UPDATE: I have been contacted by a couple of people who say that this thread doesn’t not entirely paint an accurate picture of the whole Seattle area situation. I do not want to delete and leave no trail, but anyone there other info should by all means report what’s going on."
CraigJPerry 7y ago
Is there a source to corroborate? A guy with historical tweets corroborating he works in a hospital in Seattle says he just finishes his shift and this is BS https://twitter.com/lastson76/status/1239321792562343937?s=21 https://twitter.com/lastson76/status/1239321792562343937?s=2...

jupp0r 7y ago

Except there is no complete lockdown in Seattle ...

turtlebits 7y ago

I went to pick up an to-go order yesterday and was surprised to find the local mall parking lot still full (U village) and people sitting in restaurants, with no care for keeping distance from each other. Ditto for the grocery store. I guess people still aren’t taking it seriously, even though Seattle schools and libraries are closed for a month+.

thombat 7y ago
Sunday afternoon the long distance trains in Germany had many Army and Navy personnel in uniform (which gets them free travel; may have been more in civvies paying their own way), including old reservists. We asked: they're preparing to institute mass isolation/quarantine, patrolling streets to "remind" people to stay at home. It isn't a question of "if" such measures will become necessary, it's just when will a country accept this, and how many extra deaths will be caused in that interval.

rjeli 7y ago

Does anyone have another source for this?

jupiter90000 7y ago

Some guy in Philly who talked to an "intensivist" in Seattle that we get to hear about 3rd hand? Hmm, ok.

Leary 7y ago

Wow not giving ECMO to BMI 25+ is really something. I am fairly skinny and it wouldn't take much for me to reach 25. They should consider revising the cutoff especially since Chinese people can be of thinner frames. 25 may be slightly overweight for them but normal for others.

sneak 7y ago
According to that thread, Seattle has only 12 ECMO machines in total.
stefan_ 7y ago
I don't understand, you want the virus to not kill people with >25 BMI to accommodate US standards? I don't think they chose these criteria because they just hate fat people.

jacquesm 7y ago

This update is interesting: https://twitter.com/scott_mintzer/status/1239330209247215617 https://twitter.com/scott_mintzer/status/1239330209247215617 "Scott Mintzer Brain @scott_mintzer UPDATE: I have been contacted by a couple of people who say that this thread doesn’t not entirely paint an accurate picture of the whole Seattle area situation. I do not want to delete and leave no trail, but anyone there other info should by all means report what’s going on."

CraigJPerry 7y ago

Is there a source to corroborate? A guy with historical tweets corroborating he works in a hospital in Seattle says he just finishes his shift and this is BS https://twitter.com/lastson76/status/1239321792562343937?s=21 https://twitter.com/lastson76/status/1239321792562343937?s=2...