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Almost 10,000 people died in Wuhan and many more would have died had they not locked it down. I don't know of any studies but I can't imagine anywhere near tha
by JamesBarney 7y ago
Almost 10,000 people died in Wuhan and many more would have died had they not locked it down.
I don't know of any studies but I can't imagine anywhere near that much dieing from the economy slowing down.
- eikenberry 7y agoIf truck drivers stop delivering you'll soon have grocery stores with no food. As people start to get hungry things will get very ugly very fast.
- wheelerwj 7y agoIs there some rule-of-thumb about that? like 3-days or something. I know our grocery stores only average about 1 day worth of supplies in stock, plus 1 day of food at home, then it all kind of goes to shit?
- TeMPOraL 7y agoWelcome to JIT supply chains! You'd better be sure to have a month's worth of food supply at home. From a country's POV, the stability of food production and delivery to stores is critical. Fortunately, both Italy and Wuhan prove that it can be maintained during lockdown.
- cnlevy 7y agono one died of hunger in Wuhan
- atomicUpdate 7y agoThe estimates place 5-10k people died from suicide alone due to the 2008 recession. Others claim at least 10x that due to lack of health insurance and subsequent health care, so missed cancer diagnoses, treatment, etc. I would not be surprised if the death toll from the ensuing recession is higher than from covid deaths. That begs the obvious question, since covid kills mostly old people, but the recession kills mostly young, which is better?
- the8472 7y ago> so missed cancer diagnoses, treatment, etc. Overloaded hospitals due to covid would also cause secondary deaths.
- TeMPOraL 7y agoThe virus seems to be causing potentially life-long lung damage in many more cases that it kills. On top of that, a saturated healthcare system is not providing treatment for anyone with anything that's less survivable than a Covid-19 in a relatively young and otherwise healthy person.
- alexis_fr 7y agoItaly has stopped providing respirators for 60+ year old people. They let them die. They give priority to the younger. Source in English: https://twitter.com/damienrieu/status/1238759988329418752 https://twitter.com/damienrieu/status/1238759988329418752
- travisporter 7y agoThis is absolute speculation. How can 100,000 people dying over a course of 3-5 years be linked to the recession? Ignoring that, the number will be higher than 100,000 if per the CDC nearly all Americans will be exposed
- JamesBarney 7y agoThat 10,000 number looks like it was a combined u.s. plus europe. If we let covid-19 run rampant through the u.s. and Europe we're talking about one to several million deaths. And 100k seems high for 2 some odd million people losing health insurance for a couple of years.
- grecy 7y agoSo the question really is, how many deaths are worth preventing an economic collapse. i.e. if we can prevent collapse and it "only" requires a few tens of thousands of deaths, is that worthwhile?
- TeMPOraL 7y ago> So the question really is, how many deaths are worth preventing an economic collapse. Obviously, as many as would've been caused directly by said economic collapse, minus one. The reason you can't easily do such math is because it's never a binary choice. It's not a trolley problem with an obvious solution. You can choose to sacrifice the economy to save a thousand lives for each ten thousand predicted lost to the economic downturn, and then do your best to reduce the lives lost due to economic damage. Perhaps you'll reduce that 10 000 to just 500, and then history will say it was worth it.