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Yet they close NCAAA and NBA games while an airport like JFK still passes 2 million passengers a month, let alone transit centers such as Amtrak, greyhound, or

Yet they close NCAAA and NBA games while an airport like JFK still passes 2 million passengers a month, let alone transit centers such as Amtrak, greyhound, or local subway stations. Even at a 2 - 4% mortality rate, the sheer panic over this is nonsense

nostromo 7y ago
People are now panicking about the panic and subsequent overreaction. I must say in Seattle it’s a little alarming to go to the store and to literally see no meat, no bread, no milk, no soap. And I’ve already had friends in hospitality lose their jobs. I think the UK’s keep calm and carry on approach is the right way - but it’s hard to turn back from a panic.
- tanilama 7y ago
  UK approach is suicide, their health care system is going to break down magnificently under the pressure of swarm of sick people, or they are going to ask people to stay at home and pray once sick. I don't see that works, people will riot.
- dillonmckay 7y ago
  Honestly, I think the people losing their jobs now are in a much better position than those facing uncertainty or not realizing it could happen to them. Start getting unemployment now before that system becomes overwhelmed. I am not optimistic for state and local government to implement remote work.
marcinzm 7y ago
>Even at a 2 - 4% mortality rate, the sheer panic over this is nonsense The fear is that if the health system collapses the mortality rate could be even higher.
- sidlls 7y ago
  If? Our health care system isn't equipped to handle a large-scale outbreak. People are panicking, and in really dumb ways, but there are two rational fears right now: 1) fear of our health care system not being able to cope; 2) fear of the idiot-panickers hoarding everything for no good reason and leaving others unable to buy even basic necessities.
ptero 7y ago
And somehow there is a very aggressive group trying to stifle any debate on the topic. Making a similar case in a friendly gathering early this week got me labeled as an anti-vaxer and trump fan (I am neither). It is "with us or against us", not a topic for discussion:(.
- marcinzm 7y ago
  I mean, if you put it like the guy you replied to then I'm not surprised. The potential for 6+ million deaths over the course of a half a year is beyond horrifying to anyone whose is not a sociopath.
justaq320 7y ago
Unchecked, that means 750k - 1.5M people die from just this virus...that doesn't take into account running out of hospital beds for all other patients and seeing a spike in flu deaths, etc. Very serious question...at what number would you be ok letting it go unchecked? Or alternatively, do you think some other approach is better than shutting down sports games, etc.?
TeMPOraL 7y ago
In other countries, closedowns and event cancellations were enacted simultaneously with, or quickly followed by, locking down borders - making the airport issue mostly moot. Beyond that, while it's unrealistic to immediately eliminate all mixing of people, you can vastly reduce it, and it makes a difference. That's the point of #StayTheFuckHome. Much less people on public transit, much less people in stores means much slower spread of the virus.
pretendscholar 7y ago
If 4 percent of the people who got it died that would absolutely be a crisis. That would be somewhere around 2 percent of the us population dying over the next few months. Even disregarding the number of people with irrevocable organ damage that live through lung failure, how can you say that millions of people dying over a short span would be nothing? How would that not cause a huge strain on the hospital system, utilities, and general state of the country?
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nostromo 7y ago

People are now panicking about the panic and subsequent overreaction. I must say in Seattle it’s a little alarming to go to the store and to literally see no meat, no bread, no milk, no soap. And I’ve already had friends in hospitality lose their jobs. I think the UK’s keep calm and carry on approach is the right way - but it’s hard to turn back from a panic.

tanilama 7y ago
UK approach is suicide, their health care system is going to break down magnificently under the pressure of swarm of sick people, or they are going to ask people to stay at home and pray once sick. I don't see that works, people will riot.
dillonmckay 7y ago
Honestly, I think the people losing their jobs now are in a much better position than those facing uncertainty or not realizing it could happen to them. Start getting unemployment now before that system becomes overwhelmed. I am not optimistic for state and local government to implement remote work.

marcinzm 7y ago

>Even at a 2 - 4% mortality rate, the sheer panic over this is nonsense The fear is that if the health system collapses the mortality rate could be even higher.

sidlls 7y ago
If? Our health care system isn't equipped to handle a large-scale outbreak. People are panicking, and in really dumb ways, but there are two rational fears right now: 1) fear of our health care system not being able to cope; 2) fear of the idiot-panickers hoarding everything for no good reason and leaving others unable to buy even basic necessities.

ptero 7y ago

And somehow there is a very aggressive group trying to stifle any debate on the topic. Making a similar case in a friendly gathering early this week got me labeled as an anti-vaxer and trump fan (I am neither). It is "with us or against us", not a topic for discussion:(.

marcinzm 7y ago
I mean, if you put it like the guy you replied to then I'm not surprised. The potential for 6+ million deaths over the course of a half a year is beyond horrifying to anyone whose is not a sociopath.

justaq320 7y ago

Unchecked, that means 750k - 1.5M people die from just this virus...that doesn't take into account running out of hospital beds for all other patients and seeing a spike in flu deaths, etc. Very serious question...at what number would you be ok letting it go unchecked? Or alternatively, do you think some other approach is better than shutting down sports games, etc.?

TeMPOraL 7y ago

In other countries, closedowns and event cancellations were enacted simultaneously with, or quickly followed by, locking down borders - making the airport issue mostly moot. Beyond that, while it's unrealistic to immediately eliminate all mixing of people, you can vastly reduce it, and it makes a difference. That's the point of #StayTheFuckHome. Much less people on public transit, much less people in stores means much slower spread of the virus.

pretendscholar 7y ago

If 4 percent of the people who got it died that would absolutely be a crisis. That would be somewhere around 2 percent of the us population dying over the next few months. Even disregarding the number of people with irrevocable organ damage that live through lung failure, how can you say that millions of people dying over a short span would be nothing? How would that not cause a huge strain on the hospital system, utilities, and general state of the country?

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