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That is because it is a completely unsubstantiated piece of news 'leaked' to appeal to European prejudices and thus increase CoreVac's negotiating power. The i

That is because it is a completely unsubstantiated piece of news 'leaked' to appeal to European prejudices and thus increase CoreVac's negotiating power. The idea that Donald Trump would be the person making an offer to the CEO of a tiny startup for a non-existent, as yet, vaccine should trigger alarm bells, as that's not how these negotiations work, at all. If you want to understand how these things actually work, read this article: https://www.fiercebiotech.com/medtech/fda-grants-roche-coronavirus-test-emergency-green-light-within-24-hours https://www.fiercebiotech.com/medtech/fda-grants-roche-coron... Additionally, US government officials are on the record stating that any discoveries would be shared with the world. Plenty of governments are providing funding to labs all over the world, this is not unusual behavior. > The U.S. government has spoken with many (more than 25) companies that claim they can help with a vaccine. Most of these companies already received seed funding from U.S. investors... any solution found would be shared with the world https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-germany-usa/germany-tries-to-stop-u-s-from-luring-away-firm-seeking-coronavirus-vaccine-idUSKBN2120IV https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-german...

nocturnial 7y ago
I think you have the wrong article. The one I was talking about was from reuters and was officially confirmed by the german government.
- theferalrobot 7y ago
  Right, the german government confirmed that the US was trying to secure an interest in a german company, not that they were trying to get exclusive access. The reuters report even says as I quoted before: > The U.S. government has spoken with many (more than 25) companies that claim they can help with a vaccine. Most of these companies already received seed funding from U.S. investors... any solution found would be shared with the world https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-germany-usa/germany-tries-to-stop-u-s-from-luring-away-firm-seeking-coronavirus-vaccine-idUSKBN2120IV https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-german...
  - nocturnial 7y ago
    Fair enough, so why was that particular article flagged on HN?
    - theferalrobot 7y ago
      I imagine because 1) discussion was propagating false information and 2) devolving into political infighting which is not allowed here.
      - nocturnial 7y ago
        I think you're the one who first propagated the idea in this thread that the US was doing this for exclusive access, not me. We're getting off topic. You agreed that the reuters article was fair. If not then don't use it in your argument. It was this article that got removed.
madez 7y ago
You are spreading a conspiracy theory. Please stop.
- nocturnial 7y ago
  I never said the US was trying to buy it for exclusive access, if that is the conspiracy theory you're alluding to. You need to bring it up with the one I replied to. They were making those claims, not me. It's called a strawman's argument. You falsely claim something your opponent said and before you know it, everyone believes it.
  - madez 7y ago
    The grandparent of your comment wasn't made from the same account as yours, so unless you use multiple accounts, I was not referring to you. The conspiracy theory is that the German government conspired to spread a lie.
    - theferalrobot 7y ago
      >The conspiracy theory is that the German government conspired to spread a lie. Are you on the wrong post? I never said they were spreading lies? The only thing the German government did was confirm they and the US government were both in negotiations with CoreVac. They did NOT state that the US was looking for exclusive rights. None of this goes against my initial post that this is a completely unsubstantiated article. Edit: You can't cite the news as your source for the news, especially when the news itself says it is unconfirmed.
      - madez 7y ago
        I quote from the article: "US President Trump is attempting to entice a German lab to develop a vaccine exclusively for the US, a German newspaper reported." You are sharing the conspiracy theory that the Trump administration did not in fact try to secure exclusive access to the vaccine.

nocturnial 7y ago

I think you have the wrong article. The one I was talking about was from reuters and was officially confirmed by the german government.

theferalrobot 7y ago
Right, the german government confirmed that the US was trying to secure an interest in a german company, not that they were trying to get exclusive access. The reuters report even says as I quoted before: > The U.S. government has spoken with many (more than 25) companies that claim they can help with a vaccine. Most of these companies already received seed funding from U.S. investors... any solution found would be shared with the world https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-germany-usa/germany-tries-to-stop-u-s-from-luring-away-firm-seeking-coronavirus-vaccine-idUSKBN2120IV https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-german...
- nocturnial 7y ago
  Fair enough, so why was that particular article flagged on HN?
  - theferalrobot 7y ago
    I imagine because 1) discussion was propagating false information and 2) devolving into political infighting which is not allowed here.
    - nocturnial 7y ago
      I think you're the one who first propagated the idea in this thread that the US was doing this for exclusive access, not me. We're getting off topic. You agreed that the reuters article was fair. If not then don't use it in your argument. It was this article that got removed.

madez 7y ago

You are spreading a conspiracy theory. Please stop.

nocturnial 7y ago
I never said the US was trying to buy it for exclusive access, if that is the conspiracy theory you're alluding to. You need to bring it up with the one I replied to. They were making those claims, not me. It's called a strawman's argument. You falsely claim something your opponent said and before you know it, everyone believes it.
- madez 7y ago
  The grandparent of your comment wasn't made from the same account as yours, so unless you use multiple accounts, I was not referring to you. The conspiracy theory is that the German government conspired to spread a lie.
  - theferalrobot 7y ago
    >The conspiracy theory is that the German government conspired to spread a lie. Are you on the wrong post? I never said they were spreading lies? The only thing the German government did was confirm they and the US government were both in negotiations with CoreVac. They did NOT state that the US was looking for exclusive rights. None of this goes against my initial post that this is a completely unsubstantiated article. Edit: You can't cite the news as your source for the news, especially when the news itself says it is unconfirmed.
    - madez 7y ago
      I quote from the article: "US President Trump is attempting to entice a German lab to develop a vaccine exclusively for the US, a German newspaper reported." You are sharing the conspiracy theory that the Trump administration did not in fact try to secure exclusive access to the vaccine.