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Germany and US wrestle over coronavirus vaccine

38 points by misotaur 7y ago

stevespang 7y ago
FAKE NEWS and those who disseminate it are Fakers as well, propagandist leftists
nocturnial 7y ago
Don't bother upvoting. All the other stories about this have been killed.
- mangatmodi 7y ago
  On the contrary, this makes even more important to upvote this one
  - nocturnial 7y ago
    ??? The previous one got more than 200 upvotes and then was removed...
    - mangatmodi 7y ago
      Any idea why was it removed? I saw many comments criticizing US being downvoted. It is not an baseless story now. There has been statements from German side.
      - nocturnial 7y ago
        It was flagged and thereby removed from the front page. I don't want to speculate why it was flagged.
      - madez 7y ago
        The rate of rule breaking comments was high. The other threads may give an impression, if you show dead comments. Some are spreading the conspiracy theory that either the broadcasters and news outlets conspired to produced incorrect but matching reports, or that the German government intentionally spreads the lie that the Trump administration tried to secure exclusive access to the vaccine. It seems to me that Trump supporters want to shield his administration from reports that make it look bad.
- tasubotadas 7y ago
  Why?
  - mangatmodi 7y ago
    Why upvote or why the story is getting killed?
- theferalrobot 7y ago
  That is because it is a completely unsubstantiated piece of news 'leaked' to appeal to European prejudices and thus increase CoreVac's negotiating power. The idea that Donald Trump would be the person making an offer to the CEO of a tiny startup for a non-existent, as yet, vaccine should trigger alarm bells, as that's not how these negotiations work, at all. If you want to understand how these things actually work, read this article: https://www.fiercebiotech.com/medtech/fda-grants-roche-coronavirus-test-emergency-green-light-within-24-hours https://www.fiercebiotech.com/medtech/fda-grants-roche-coron... Additionally, US government officials are on the record stating that any discoveries would be shared with the world. Plenty of governments are providing funding to labs all over the world, this is not unusual behavior. > The U.S. government has spoken with many (more than 25) companies that claim they can help with a vaccine. Most of these companies already received seed funding from U.S. investors... any solution found would be shared with the world https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-germany-usa/germany-tries-to-stop-u-s-from-luring-away-firm-seeking-coronavirus-vaccine-idUSKBN2120IV https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-german...
  - nocturnial 7y ago
    I think you have the wrong article. The one I was talking about was from reuters and was officially confirmed by the german government.
    - theferalrobot 7y ago
      Right, the german government confirmed that the US was trying to secure an interest in a german company, not that they were trying to get exclusive access. The reuters report even says as I quoted before: > The U.S. government has spoken with many (more than 25) companies that claim they can help with a vaccine. Most of these companies already received seed funding from U.S. investors... any solution found would be shared with the world https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-germany-usa/germany-tries-to-stop-u-s-from-luring-away-firm-seeking-coronavirus-vaccine-idUSKBN2120IV https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-german...
      - 7y ago
detaro 7y ago
previously: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22582721 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22582721 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22584108 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22584108 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22584227 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22584227

38 points by misotaur 7y ago

stevespang 7y ago

FAKE NEWS and those who disseminate it are Fakers as well, propagandist leftists

nocturnial 7y ago

Don't bother upvoting. All the other stories about this have been killed.

mangatmodi 7y ago
On the contrary, this makes even more important to upvote this one
- nocturnial 7y ago
  ??? The previous one got more than 200 upvotes and then was removed...
  - mangatmodi 7y ago
    Any idea why was it removed? I saw many comments criticizing US being downvoted. It is not an baseless story now. There has been statements from German side.
    - nocturnial 7y ago
      It was flagged and thereby removed from the front page. I don't want to speculate why it was flagged.
    - madez 7y ago
      The rate of rule breaking comments was high. The other threads may give an impression, if you show dead comments. Some are spreading the conspiracy theory that either the broadcasters and news outlets conspired to produced incorrect but matching reports, or that the German government intentionally spreads the lie that the Trump administration tried to secure exclusive access to the vaccine. It seems to me that Trump supporters want to shield his administration from reports that make it look bad.
tasubotadas 7y ago
Why?
- mangatmodi 7y ago
  Why upvote or why the story is getting killed?
theferalrobot 7y ago
That is because it is a completely unsubstantiated piece of news 'leaked' to appeal to European prejudices and thus increase CoreVac's negotiating power. The idea that Donald Trump would be the person making an offer to the CEO of a tiny startup for a non-existent, as yet, vaccine should trigger alarm bells, as that's not how these negotiations work, at all. If you want to understand how these things actually work, read this article: https://www.fiercebiotech.com/medtech/fda-grants-roche-coronavirus-test-emergency-green-light-within-24-hours https://www.fiercebiotech.com/medtech/fda-grants-roche-coron... Additionally, US government officials are on the record stating that any discoveries would be shared with the world. Plenty of governments are providing funding to labs all over the world, this is not unusual behavior. > The U.S. government has spoken with many (more than 25) companies that claim they can help with a vaccine. Most of these companies already received seed funding from U.S. investors... any solution found would be shared with the world https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-germany-usa/germany-tries-to-stop-u-s-from-luring-away-firm-seeking-coronavirus-vaccine-idUSKBN2120IV https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-german...
- nocturnial 7y ago
  I think you have the wrong article. The one I was talking about was from reuters and was officially confirmed by the german government.
  - theferalrobot 7y ago
    Right, the german government confirmed that the US was trying to secure an interest in a german company, not that they were trying to get exclusive access. The reuters report even says as I quoted before: > The U.S. government has spoken with many (more than 25) companies that claim they can help with a vaccine. Most of these companies already received seed funding from U.S. investors... any solution found would be shared with the world https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-germany-usa/germany-tries-to-stop-u-s-from-luring-away-firm-seeking-coronavirus-vaccine-idUSKBN2120IV https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-german...
    - 7y ago

detaro 7y ago

previously: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22582721 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22582721 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22584108 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22584108 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22584227 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22584227