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The main issue with the UK's approach is approximately 10% of young people need acute medical care (e.g., ventilator access). There aren't enough hospital beds

by Donald 7y ago

The main issue with the UK's approach is approximately 10% of young people need acute medical care (e.g., ventilator access). There aren't enough hospital beds in the NHS system to meet that demand.

soccerdave 7y ago
Do you have a source for the 10% of young people needing ventilators?
- IAmGraydon 7y ago
  I can assure you that they don’t have a source for that.
  - meddlepal 7y ago
    The amount of misinformation/unverifiable information going on around internet communities right now is really showcasing a huge problem with our modern society. There are no facts anymore, because nothing and nobody can be trusted.
    - wbl 7y ago
      Fish rot from the head.
JamesBarney 7y ago
I thought 10% of the general population required hospitalization. With a smaller number of people needing ventilators and a even smaller % of young people needing ventilators.
- knzhou 7y ago
  At this point, hospitalization basically implies ventilation. Hospitals are crowded. If they were just going to give you a bed and some pills, they'd have you do that at home. France reports that half their patients in critical care are under 60, which is supposed to be the "low risk" group.
notanote 7y ago
Tl;dr of a dutch article[1]: In the Netherlands there are between 40-50 covid-19 patients in ICU in critical condition. Over half of them are younger than 50. (Youngest is 16yo) Mortality is much higher for the older group, but hospitalisation happens a lot in the younger age group as well. Obesity is a high-risk factor. A comment in the reddit post[2] which discusses that article notes that in China the 15-49 age group made up 41% of severe/critical cases. (The below 50 age group accounts for a bigger part of the population to be sure. I see no data for hospital admission rate as fraction of the age group.) [1] http://www.ad.nl/dossier-coronavirus/40-a-50-nederlandse-coronapatienten-op-intensive-cares-meer-dan-de-helft-is-onder-de-vijftig~a058aad2/ http://www.ad.nl/dossier-coronavirus/40-a-50-nederlandse-cor... [2] https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/fj1owh/over_half_of_the_coronavirus_patients_in/ https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/fj1owh/over_ha...

by Donald 7y ago

The main issue with the UK's approach is approximately 10% of young people need acute medical care (e.g., ventilator access). There aren't enough hospital beds in the NHS system to meet that demand.

soccerdave 7y ago

Do you have a source for the 10% of young people needing ventilators?

IAmGraydon 7y ago
I can assure you that they don’t have a source for that.
- meddlepal 7y ago
  The amount of misinformation/unverifiable information going on around internet communities right now is really showcasing a huge problem with our modern society. There are no facts anymore, because nothing and nobody can be trusted.
  - wbl 7y ago
    Fish rot from the head.

JamesBarney 7y ago

I thought 10% of the general population required hospitalization. With a smaller number of people needing ventilators and a even smaller % of young people needing ventilators.

knzhou 7y ago
At this point, hospitalization basically implies ventilation. Hospitals are crowded. If they were just going to give you a bed and some pills, they'd have you do that at home. France reports that half their patients in critical care are under 60, which is supposed to be the "low risk" group.

notanote 7y ago

Tl;dr of a dutch article[1]: In the Netherlands there are between 40-50 covid-19 patients in ICU in critical condition. Over half of them are younger than 50. (Youngest is 16yo) Mortality is much higher for the older group, but hospitalisation happens a lot in the younger age group as well. Obesity is a high-risk factor. A comment in the reddit post[2] which discusses that article notes that in China the 15-49 age group made up 41% of severe/critical cases. (The below 50 age group accounts for a bigger part of the population to be sure. I see no data for hospital admission rate as fraction of the age group.) [1] http://www.ad.nl/dossier-coronavirus/40-a-50-nederlandse-coronapatienten-op-intensive-cares-meer-dan-de-helft-is-onder-de-vijftig~a058aad2/ http://www.ad.nl/dossier-coronavirus/40-a-50-nederlandse-cor... [2] https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/fj1owh/over_half_of_the_coronavirus_patients_in/ https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/fj1owh/over_ha...