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This seems obviously false. Italy has universal health coverage and they have one of the worst outbreaks and worse fatality rates of any country. This doesn't

This seems obviously false. Italy has universal health coverage and they have one of the worst outbreaks and worse fatality rates of any country. This doesn't feel like the right time to promote preferred political agendas. Doesn't matter who pays for it when there is no vaccine and no cure.

melenaboija 7y ago
Partially agree with you. Universal health coverage in this situation is meant to treat everybody in equality for same problem and I would say it doesn't matter who pays for it as long as everybody will get treated in a similar way. Agree on European governments did not the right thing, but again, not sure if that has something to do with universal health.
nrp 7y ago
On universal paid sick leave, the intent is to enable people to not go into their workplace when they could be contagious. The choice between risking getting others sick or going broke and getting evicted isn't one people should be forced to make. On universal health coverage, the major difference is what the recovery looks like (potentially after the vaccine in countries where it's too late for containment). If there's any silver lining to this pandemic, hopefully it's that politicians who oppose universal health coverage become unelectable.
- pmorici 7y ago
  I understand that but the op is advocating that those things would do more than having an ample supply of PPE and an effective treatment and vaccine which is total nonsense.
js2 7y ago
We'll soon see how America's broken healthcare system combines with its undocumented immigrants and homeless.
- Alex3917 7y ago
  And also people of color not filling out the census because they're afraid the government is going to send people to lynch them. Healthcare resources are completely misallocated because people are scared to tell the government where they live. During the last census, the response rate in Harlem was something like only 65%, which the government can tell based on electricity usage and toilet flush data.

melenaboija 7y ago

Partially agree with you. Universal health coverage in this situation is meant to treat everybody in equality for same problem and I would say it doesn't matter who pays for it as long as everybody will get treated in a similar way. Agree on European governments did not the right thing, but again, not sure if that has something to do with universal health.

nrp 7y ago

On universal paid sick leave, the intent is to enable people to not go into their workplace when they could be contagious. The choice between risking getting others sick or going broke and getting evicted isn't one people should be forced to make. On universal health coverage, the major difference is what the recovery looks like (potentially after the vaccine in countries where it's too late for containment). If there's any silver lining to this pandemic, hopefully it's that politicians who oppose universal health coverage become unelectable.

pmorici 7y ago
I understand that but the op is advocating that those things would do more than having an ample supply of PPE and an effective treatment and vaccine which is total nonsense.

js2 7y ago

We'll soon see how America's broken healthcare system combines with its undocumented immigrants and homeless.

Alex3917 7y ago
And also people of color not filling out the census because they're afraid the government is going to send people to lynch them. Healthcare resources are completely misallocated because people are scared to tell the government where they live. During the last census, the response rate in Harlem was something like only 65%, which the government can tell based on electricity usage and toilet flush data.