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Then what word would you use describe the political leanings of a nation whose people feel threatened by something, like maybe the World Bank and IMF rolling in
by jart 7y ago
Then what word would you use describe the political leanings of a nation whose people feel threatened by something, like maybe the World Bank and IMF rolling in, and want a stronger government to prevent it from happening?
- specialist 7y agoLiberal? I'm the most left leaning person I know and am involved in local politics. I'm pretty sure most of my cohort opposes forfeiting our sovereignty to financiers. But I'd say outrage, vs fear, is my prime motivator. FWIW I've adopted Jonathan Haidt's Moral Foundations Theory, until something better comes along. None of the personality traits are correct or incorrect. They just are. I'm just trying to understand other people better, esp those I disagree with. Edit, TMI warning: My SO voted for Trump. And about 1/2 my family are #MAGA. We largely have the same values, culture, upbringing. So it's fascinating to me how we reach different conclusions. I was truly surprised to learn about fear, anxiety, and so forth. My SO's prime motivator is fear, which she proclaims openly. Whereas I have near zero fear response. That difference is the basis for most of our quarrels. And, frankly, I just didn't grok the difference, so was being quite the knucklehead.
- jart 7y agoHaidt's pretty cool, but I disagree with how you explained his ideas. Best executive summary of Haidt I know of is this bar chart: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dh7OHIPVMAA-OJk.jpg https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dh7OHIPVMAA-OJk.jpg Usually folks I know who lean as far left as you prefer labels like anarchist, or socialist -- since liberal is what the imf / world bank people call themselves!
- specialist 7y agoI currently believe something like OCEAN explains something like MFT. Ya, labels suck. I'm "liberal" in the sense that I support whatever works and embrace change. Adam Smith, Marx, others all made some great points, many of which have been lost, but progress marches on and we must adapt.
- jart 7y agoSmith and Marx are interesting but they're two sides of the same coin. Capitalism, communism, what does it all serve? Greasing the wheels of progress. Everyone supports progress. But how do we define it? Computation! We need more neurons, transistors, etc. so we can tackle more complex problems. Look at how far we've come, compared to microbial goo. It is our manifest destiny to embark on a long march through the galaxy to harvest and reorganize all its matter/energy into a singular united planck scale computer. We're going to need an authoritarian galatic empire to get us there. Are you with us comrade?
- specialist 7y agoService guarantees citizenship.